Statistical Analysis about the ARIZA, PARSONS contracts and working out their value around the leagu

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Thiers no real easy right or wrong answer here as my numbers are just that, they don’t factor in a variety of things as mentioned earlier such as age, position of the team etc… however all my indicators point to the fact Parsons got a slight overpay, far more than what seemed like an appropriate amount to match which morey ended up doing exactly declining to match,

Arizas contract while the length being 4 years bothers me, the amount of salary per year, if he can continue his previous form should make all Rockets fans excited in the fact we just upgraded the most stacked superstar position in the NBA with an elite defender who is a touch better than Chandler on the offensive end."

So now you guys are saying that Trevor is the better offensive player than Parsons as well... Lol. Trevor's offense last season was just an extension on John Wall. But I guess that doesn't factor in to your analytics.

And what super star small forwards has Trevor's defense actually shut down...??? What super star small forwards did he actually kept from scoring..?

 

Then the only logical next step for you: don't post. Seriously, what a rude waste of bandwidth, and people wonder why the GARM sucks. When you get a thoughtful and detailed initial post, reward it. In your case, that would mean shut up.


OP, thanks much for your legwork and analysis. I found a number of surprises in the data, and I suppose it all goes back to the effect of injuries.

Gallinari appeared to have much higher production, statistically, than I would have expected, and Iggy had a much lower statistical value than I would have predicted. I suppose his PER suffered a great deal being surrounded by the trio of shooters in Golden State (splash bros + Lee).

Is that accurate?

I'm also surprised that Ariza grades so much higher than CP25 offensively. I suppose that's just the effect of shooting percentage. But perhaps his passing is also a bit underappreciated by the BBS.

 

Yeah I'd love Marion here. And his contract would actually be a trade chip if it wasnt too long and he doesnt completely falloff a la Gerald Wallace. He doesnt endanger our flexibility (for Morey) AND he helps us win. Why NOT sign Marion?

 

lets just hope ariza is not a contract year player. his stats appear so

 

Thanks man, good info

 

Would love to get a Shawn Marion with a chip on his shoulder, especially against Dallas. Shawn can take it out on either Dirk or Chandler. Rockets still do not have their stretch 4 or a quality backup for 3 spot. Marion would be perfect fit, offensively AND defensively.

No other stretch 4 options can provide the D that Marion can bring. Despise Fegan, but Marion would be worth dealing with him again.

 

Ariza will be 32 at the end of his contract. Normally you would expect any steep decline to take place after 32.

I'd be surprised if Parsons opts out to sign a smaller contract. He'll only be 28 when this one ends, and the longer he waits, the bigger potential contract he can get.

 

Appreciate the numbers. Common stats tells us we got a heck of a deal between the two guys, but seeing contract value is a nice indicator to back it up.

I'm also interested in seeing where Marion ends up.

 

Thanks OP. Always nice to get some facts from posts. Appreciate the effort.

 

You hate numbers that go against perception

 

It doesn't matter. Washington is a good defensive team even without Trevor. They were ranked higher on defense the year before when Trevor wasn't starting. Basketball is a game of moving parts and individuals on the same team can effect each other's stats... To go along with coaching and style of play (Washington runs a slower pace offense _ that helps on the defensive end). All you're doing is isolating one individual's statistics from the rest of his teammates, the style that they play, and ignoring all other factors and drawing an incomplete conclusion.

Trevor is the better defensive player but his addition doesn't necessarily make us a dominant defense with the style that we play. Just like adding Howard didn't make us a dominant defense. And Trevor does not shut down super star small forwards.

Trevor isn't a better offensive player than Parsons. It's not even close. You ignore the John Wall factor with Trevor. That's a true floor general point guard. You guys act like it's just a coincidence that Trevor just started playing well when he got to Washington and John Wall and the rest of the Wizards have nothing to do with it.

The game isn't played.

With Houston Trevor doesn't have to be as good as Parsons. Harden, Howard, and most importantly McHale just have to do better. Simple.

 

People's perceptions are sometimes different sir. You have your basketball eye and I have mine. It's nothing to do with "Hate" just because I don't agree with you

 

Edit...

 

Marion and J.O'neal.

Canaan / ish
Daniels
Marion
DMo
O'neal / Dorsey

 

Forgot all about Fesenko. Love that guy!