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STATES RIGHTS, WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thegary, Sep 28, 2022.

  1. thegary

    thegary Contributing Member

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    Absolutely nothing?
     
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    HUH!

    GOODGAWD!

    Sayitagainnnnn.....
     
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    Seriously though, we are so divided, how do we decide to do what's best for us regionally and stay united?
     
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    State's Rights is a back-engineered solution. Nobody cares about states rights when the Federal government is doing what they want. But when you want to do something that you can get the federal government to agree on? States rights!

    It's the political equivalent of taking your ball and going home when you are losing.
     
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    States rights is perfectly fine as an idea but the design of the 10th amendment was a bad idea. The idea that power goes to the states by default is the real problem.
     
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    “That government is best which governs least.”
    --Thoreau
     
  7. thegary

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    It's a problem for most states. Consider, however, NY... We don't want what Texas and Mississippi want...
     
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    Building interstate highways probably killed States Rights more than losing the civil war.

    The amount of funding need to maintain highways after 20 years is gargantuan and unsustainable to the point where the only recourse is to build even more freeways to add hundreds of millions into the annual budget.

    Very Ponzi like.

    I feel it's now a symbol to prop up a national platform against rich coastal regions that don't need national funding, but are so influential to the point where they push national economic and cultural agendas upon everyone else.

    With every GOP president, a showdown against Cal EPA is guaranteed. It deals with emissions and whether one state (coalition) can force auto manufacturers to build an entirely different car to meet that state's standards.

    There are also other fights dealing with pollutant controls and the legally mandated amount but cars is the biggest issue exposing right wing hypocrisy when it comes to States Rights.
     
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    Slavery?
     
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    Yes, the taxes taken from the haves pay for the welfare of the don't want. Perplexing...
     
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    at 1st abortion was supposed to be a “states rights issue”…then Republicans go and introduce a federal abortion ban in the Senate
     
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    Right, states rights are good for strong staes, Republicans are asking for trouble.
     
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    Southern Pride...American Exceptionalism means we take all credit for our Bootstrapped Success while dismissing any form of Socialist Table-setting (public education, subsidized water and gas, business/college grants) as "services paid" for Needlessly Illegal Taxes.

    It's not a handout...that's reserved for Fake Americans sucking off Uncle Sam's teets. Even calling it a bribe would make them sleep better at night than a handout.
     
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    I've only been ever interested in access to education and healthcare for all Americans. In other words, capitalism as far as the day is long but FREEDOM from financial insecurity. Is that socialism?
     
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    I'm with you. I'd like to pretend to have center-right leanings if politicians were consistent with what they preached.

    That has become incredibly difficult after Bush, especially with large caps taking privileges that were once reserved for small businesses.

    The States Righters have to address why their Free Market laboratories like Mississippi or Kansas are constant laggards despite tearing down all the institutions they scapegoated for their failures.

    I guess they can point to Texas and laugh at California, but the first step towards dealing with their insecurity complexes is to directly focus on their inferiorities.
     
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    How about this? What do poor, uneducated whities want? Other question, where are the wingers, don't they care? I think I've opened a nuanced thread. Bring it.
     
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    I could hear your jimmies being rustled while reading the thread title, true story
     
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    A keg, football doubleheader (maybe churchday, maybe workday), and a gun to shoot inanimate objects with in the event of a win/loss?

    On the bigger issues, a trailer that's paid off (trailer park expenses still pricey) and kids who takes care of themselves while the monthly check puts you in the green.

    Sounds like someone made it.
     
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    Sounds like OP needs a history lesson.

    States rights said anything that was not deemed by the constitution required states approval.
    After the Civil War, the federal government was allowed to choose what it wanted.

    States Rights argument is dumb and done. We would not be the country we are today if States still dictated everything.

    The sad little pundits love to run to the Federal Government and demand they make everyone follow their ways.
     
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    the tingling thread is in the Hangout fyi
     
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