i reject the notion that republicans are more fiscally responsible than democrats. the biggest increases in the national debt over the last few decades have come during republican administrations. also, i trust dems with SC pics way, way, way, way, way more than republicans. i want progress, not regression and kowtowing to religious extremists.
im in austin...the fastest growing, biggest boom-town in texas right now and also the most liberal. talented people are moving here from all over the country to take high paying jobs in the growing tech-industry. housing construction is up 20% year-to-year and they still cant get enough available housing for all the people coming here. notice the "liberal" cities are the ones driving the economy right now. youre welcome!
LOL okay. I mean, it's not accurate, but that's cool. The Republicans are the fiscally irresponsible party, the Democrats are the REALLY REALLY REALLY RIDICULOUSLY fiscally irresponsible party. Obama and the Democrats literally doubled the national debt in 8 years despite the Republicans efforts to force a bit of fiscal responsibility on them......and then Obama took credit for getting the annual deficit back down similar to where it was before the Democrats took control of the house and senate during Bush's last years and passed a ridiculous budget with over 1 trillion dollars in deficit spending a year. That trend of 1 trillion+ deficits continued until Republicans took back control of the house and senate, that's not a coincidence. Again, while it's true that Republicans are fiscally irresponsible, by comparison they are the grown up party when it comes to fiscal responsibility while the Democrats are the 13 year old going crazy with a dozen credit cards and a large checkbook. When it comes to SCOTUS justices, I simply don't trust the party that seeks to strip the people of their rights under the guise of progress. I don't really trust the Republicans either given their bad history, but if you have to compare the two, there's no contest. Liberals always seek to strip power from the people and give it to the government. It's not healthy and it's not good.
This was true until Obama. You can blame the debt increase under Obama on the housing bubble, but then you would also need to blame the increase under Bush on the tech bubble. Clinton left office with $6 trillion in debt, and that has more than tripled under Bush and Obama. The difference is in the methodology of debt creation. Republicans increase debt by (generally speaking) keeping spending the same, but cutting taxes. Democrats create debt by (again, generally speaking) keeping taxes the same and increasing spending. As a taxpayer I would prefer lower taxes to increased spending (most of which has little to no impact on me). A libertarian would cut taxes while cutting spending (personally, I would cut the spending first, pay down the debt with the surplus, and then cut the taxes to correspond to the reduced revenue needs once the debt was paid off). A socialist would increase spending while raising taxes.
again, i have to disagree with the notion that republicans have historically been more fiscally responsible than democrats. obama is the biggest spender, but look at % increases. and if we want to talk fiscal irresponsibility, look no further than republican nominee trump. his plan to cut taxes for the wealthy is estimated to add over $7 trillion to the debt over the next 10 years. on that note, we tried tax cuts for the wealthy and trickle down economics and it led to the two biggest financial collapses of my lifetime. and as far as supreme court picks, trump is the one who says we need to clamp down on the first amendment, free speech and freedom of the press. he has also called for criminally punishing women who have abortions. and with his calls for stop-and-frisk he has also put himself at odds with the 4th amendment. DEBT: https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296 Barack Obama: Added $7.917 trillion, a 68% increase in the $11.657 trillion debt level attributable to President Bush by the end of his last budget, FY 2009. George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase to the $5.8 trillion debt level at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001. Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32% increase to the $4.4 trillion debt level at the end of Bush's last budget, FY 1993. George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54% increase in the $2.8 trillion debt level at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989. Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, 186% increase in the $998 billion debt level at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981. See Did Reaganomics Work? Jimmy Carter: Added $299 billion, a 43% increase in the $699 billion debt level at the end of Ford's last budget, FY 1977. Gerald Ford: Added $224 billion, a 47% increase in the $475 billion debt level at the end of Nixon's last budget, FY 1974. Richard Nixon: Added $121 billion, a 34% increase in the $354 billion debt level at the end of LBJ's last budget, FY 1969. Lyndon B. Johnson: Added $42 billion, a 13% increase in the $312 billion debt level at the end of JFK's last budget, FY 1964. John F. Kennedy: Added $23 billion, a 8% increase in the $289 billion debt level at the end of Eisenhower's last budget, FY1961. Dwight Eisenhower: Added $23 billion, a 9% increase in the $266 billion debt level at the end of Truman's last budget, FY 1953. DEFECIT: https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151 President Barack Obama: Total Projected Plus Actual Deficits = $6.616 trillion, a 57% increase. President George W. Bush: Total = $3.293 trillion, a 57% increase. President Bill Clinton: Total = $63 billion surplus, a 1% decrease. President George H.W. Bush: Total = $1.036 trillion, a 36% increase. President Ronald Reagan: Total = $1.412 trillion, a 142% increase President Jimmy Carter: Total = $253 billion, a 36% increase. President Gerald Ford: Total = $181 billion, a 38% increase. President Richard Nixon: Total = $70 billion, a 20% increase. President Lyndon B. Johnson: Total = $36 billion, an 11% increase. President John F. Kennedy: Total = $18 billion, a 6% increase. President Dwight Eisenhower: Total = $15 billion, a 6% increase.
There is no difference between Republicans and Democrats when it comes to spending. They both spend like crazy. So the differences are. 1. Taxation - I don't think we need more taxes. I might believe that we need a different tax structure but not more. 2. Growing government - Creating social programs that feel good but have no means or hope of fiscal success is bad. IMO Democrats like to create Government entities that require spending increases. These entities typically become problems when you are trying to reduce spending because they are never well thought out from a fiscal perspective and they have a HUGE negative political impact if they are targeted for cuts. Out of 17 possibilities with 16 of those having a good chance of beating Hillary or Bernie, a bunch of really short sighted people voted for Trump because he was a big FU to the establishment.... nice job people. Could you imagine Hillary standing next to Ben Carson in those debates, she would have looked like evil incarnate. Next to Trump she looked like the only sane person in the room. I really would have liked to see Hillary debate Carson.
Do you really think Ben Carson was somehow the most qualified Republican candidate to not win the nomination? He didn't win a single primary or caucus; even Marco Rubio managed to do that.
Ben Carson is a terrible debater and his knowledge on the issues is almost as lacking as Trump's. Rubio is the one that would've been an interesting debate matchup for Clinton. BTW there are far more differences between Democrats and Republicans than the two generic ones that you posted. Climate change, social issues, pretty much anything regarding foreign policy, voter ID laws to name a few.
Well I guess that depends on what you define as qualified. By your definition it would seem that you think Trump and Hillary are the most qualified.... I disagree with that completely. I like who Ben Carson is and felt that he was at least honest which is very refreshing in the political world. I assume you will be voting for Hillary so honesty is not something you value much.
The conversation above my post was fiscal in nature... but yeah you are right. I'm not sure where you get that Ben Carson is a terrible debater from? He was not rude enough to debate with Trump but I think he would have done a much better job debating with Hillary.
Assuming that politicians are paragons of honesty is naive. I'm not enthused about voting for her, but I'll gladly vote for her rather than drive the country off of a cliff with Trump.
Well we aren't that far off... I agree that Hillary is the safer choice, she is extremely predictable in that she is 100% self centered and will do or say anything to benefit Hillary, there is a lot of safety in that. I just can't stand her... and I will not vote for her.
If everyone in government is so fiscally irresponsible, why are our interest rates and inflation rates so low? Obviously the Bond Markets are not too concerned with our debt risk. It only took me 15 minutes from start to finish to vote Straight Democrat yesterday.
