I have known a guy who seemed normal, until he started to get an amusements out of him self, he came one day to say: Rayan Anderson had bruises all over his body!! he stripped to him and sworn it was caused by a dirty player named Dwight. Before I asked him for clarification he started talking how he donated 20k to a women he hardly knew so she can have an abortion . By the way he drive f350 when he plump his neighbor houses but during the day he is a lawyer ...go figures...
The craziest Muslim I have seen was on the university campus, when 6 Christian white dudes were "representing" Christianity under police protection by shouting at women (i'm not joking) "You deserve rape, w****!" and tearing pages out of a Quran. A poor little Muslim guy, about 19, went insane with rage and ripped off his backpack to run and fight the main unemployed Christian rape advocate, when his Muslim friends restrained him. Seeing the nice college students standing in a silent semi-circle around these Duck Dynasty Christians standing with their arms crossed, and the poor little Muslim dude who would be arrested for getting his ass kicked by the WalMart-fed white Christians, I realized I was the only white adult male around who would face up to these unemployed clowns without girlfriends. So, enjoying the same police protection as the unemployed Christian rape advocates, I got one inch from these dudes grills and shouted, spit flying in their faces, "You're unemployed! Get a job! You're unemployed! Get a job!" Their lame response: "My job is you." (Guess they failed on that job.) I understand that Christians believe every soul deserves death, but I think it is pretty low for unemployed fat white men to go shout at college girls for wearing short pants "You deserve rape!" or ripping pages out of anyone's holy book.
Christians spreading the word. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/eftrQOVqZ9g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I don't get offended being called a shiite, just like I don't get offended if someone calls me black. I'm neither of these things, and none of those things are bad things. The only thing on display is your xenophobic views.
Due to being brainwashed by the media, or being a bunch of agreeable pansies in general, you're all looking at the wrong things. It's not about every muslim you know having c4 in their garage, or giving off a terrorist vibe in the open (the San Bernadino shooter and many others were described as normal, happy people). It's not about the scriptures or whatever stories one religion has over the other. It's the lack of accountability for things going on right under their noses. Distancing themselves from Islam when it's convenient, then being a specific sect of Islam when it's convenient. Having no backbone and allowing anti-imperialism narratives to plague muslim communities in the West, as well as countries back home. Forget all the barbaric cultural practices that are exposed tenfold by news outlets like the BBC and NYTimes, the moderate muslim inability to aggressively squash these narratives and pretending they don't exist (while giving justifications for heinous crimes) are exactly why muslim terrorists are committing atrocities on a weekly basis. Forget the scriptures. What other community or ideology would put up with this? It's really no different to Nazi Germany accounting for all of Germany - except the moderates have an ability to speak out and change their destiny (which they don't, because of the fear embedded in them by Islam). Very, very cut and dry issue.
Christians spreading the luv at an institution of higher education. Thanks for improving the university, clowns. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/w1mKVYtJMf4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Thanks for sharing.. I think between the Sovits /China they had conducted like 30 nuclear experiments on Uyghur , forced their women to marry Chinese/Russians .only less than 10% of the population stayed, pretty much they immigrated to other parts of the world .
Well said, guy. That has been my experience with Muslims. No possible terrorists. Hope all is going well in Dallas.
OP is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, had the privilege of knowing him for 10+ years. The number of d******d responses on the first page just prove his point.
Only know of a hand full of Muslim through my workplace. Except for one, rest are extremely kind, loving, and non-judgmental. Don't hang out with them so not sure how religious or what they really are like.
From your posts, you seem like a nice guy, unlike trustme, adeelsiddiqui, Hydhypedplaya or crazies from the middle east like Exiled and Mathloom. However, you need to understand that the ones who are bringing shame to your religion are not those who criticize the craziness that comes from followers of it. The ones who bring shame to your religion are the ones from within who commit acts of terror in its name, and all the hundreds of millions who think suicide bombings can be ok to "defend Islam", and all the ones who think cartoonists deserve to die, and all the ones who force their women into mobile jails aka burkhas, and all the hundreds of millions who think someone who leaves Islam should be killed. One thing I notice with Muslims, including the part of your post I quoted above, is the constant need to portray themselves as some kind of victim or martyr. Nobody is "butchering" or hating you. The ones who are doing the butchering are ISIS, Boko Haram, the Taliban, Abu Sayaf, Hizbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda - all in the name of Islam. They are the ones you should be mad at. Not those who have to deal with Islamic terrorism and are therefore understandably critical of Islam.
with the exception of the last name, you are misjudging wonderful members Criticism is welcomed if it came from non-bigots point of view We don't disagree on this ,next! many people feel being sandwiched between terrorist committing crime under the name of their religion, and those who put Muslims in generals under the name of terror You kinda wanted Erdogan to be in that position ,but we get your point you should browse muslims websites and see how they responds/comments on terror news.
This is one of the few sentences coming from you I could actually understand. Yes, I can understand that sentiment, but what I observe is that those who feel that way tend to retreat to a shell of "us vs. them" and rather than take out their frustration on those who commit terror in the name of their religion, they start wild conspiracy theories about how Israel must be behind this or alternatively they just shrug and say "oh he ate pork/he didn't even observe Ramadan - he was not a Muslim". A while ago someone posted videos here of Muslims saying "at least Bin Laden is a Muslim"- they would still rather be on his side somehow than accept criticism from the outside. The frustration always seems to be channeled towards those criticizing Islam, never much - save for some half-hearted attempts at distancing themselves from it - at the perpetrators of terror in the name of Islam, and the radical factions among its followers. There is little collective self-criticism. The reactions are mostly focused on "whitewashing Islam" - even friendly people like LCAhmed are doing it with this thread. Can you really blame people in France and Germany and the rest of Europe who were living in relative safety when they had a low Muslim population and who didn't have to deal with things like people not wanting to shake women's hands, etc., when their perception of Islam is shaped by sudden brutal terror attacks and frequent displays of intolerance even from non-terrorists? How is that not going to shape their perception of Islam as a whole? The focus should be on bettering Islam, not on being mad at those who criticize it when it is objectively wrong and harmful. I actually have, and it was frightening.
I nearly was arrested for throwing a soda on one of those dudes in college when he called my girlfriend a w**** for wearing a skirt. Cop escorted me off then just let me go. I think that guy is the reason I rejected all religion.
Didn't take very long for anyone to defend Islam by dragging another religion into the mix. No less Christianity, the religion whose God is the second/third most cited profit in the Koran.
I've noticed that with Christians too. It's indeed a sliding scale. It's not as much "socio-economic conditions" but rather where your team is in the big Who loves My people more rat race. The Western plea for Muslims to moderate is more than one message. Weak Secularism- Conservative Christians feel like they've been reined in on their values and are more concerned about that in order to circle their wagons and bring on their prophesied wars to end all wars. Moderate Secularism balanced by religious ethics- Moderate Christians generally want more unity and cross cultural exchanges and feel any religion of value is better than no religion. This is the assimilation message that's mainstream and broadcasted as it can appeal to everyone secular-minded without quibbling in the details. Secularism with checks against religious mandates- Active atheists are more in the mindset that moderate Muslims with their "values" are just as bad or worse than your typical Christian Conservative. However, secularism is the best compromise, as they feel they can make bring some sense into laws even if it takes a damn long time. There's always a daily calculation on which is worse...an ongoing cultural war taking place in the media, public grounds and courts, or a violent world filled with religious extremists that validates their minority opinion. Teasing on the last bit. It's one message with different agendas. Europeans seem like they fall in the last one, whereas Americans predominately fill the first two. How do Muslims take that in? The only way someone can submit to a way of life that's demanded ritualistically daily is to have pride or purpose into it. Whereas Christians are the most faith driven among the three Abrahamic religions, Muslims are the most works driven. When there's a vast disconnect between their works and their standing in their world, you get something like this which borrows heavily from the roots of existentialism and terrorist practices rooted in 18th century egalitarianism and class upheaval. Of the three "agendas", the middle one is still the most appealing as it allows more Muslims to cross their works driven mandates more into a leap of faith and the abstract. Strong secularism with heavy capitalist influences is the least appealing as it's more stale and materialistic. Somewhere in between is weak secularism, where conflict and crisis (among other secular/non-secular cultures) brings enough reasons for minorities raise a banner and wear down an oppressed middle to lower classes. The things we see as "right wing" come from a cultural mindset with Judeo-Christian roots. What exactly would secularly integrated Muslims see as right wing in their societies? Maybe that question matters in bolstering public outrage against those individual violent interests. Or it could be an exercise slicing up the same piece of crazy. Depends on how one sees it.
I'm guilty of having a language negligence most of the times people are puzzled with those who commits crime in the name of religion, when the religion works against it . its like dishonoring a family member for committing a shameful acts , but yes we have some of most worst and hard to admit they are supposed to be on our side not aware of this ,he was a master of propaganda , little substance and a lot of plays on emotions, it just demonstrate how religion with low IQ is a dangerous mixture as a Muslim my self , i find it difficult to be critical of certain issues and it might go in both directions ,without being labeled in a negative way, it may turn to mourn ceremony or insult party, so yes being extra sensitive does more damage than good . if I have your windows of views, I may more likely to have a very serious bigot opinions of Muslims , but from a Muslim perspective : hey we are a billion something, that guy who blow him self, i have never met him,heard of him or liked him in first place this is a google translation of a response of a guy who seem to live in France http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/arab-an...سا-أنباء-عن-احتجاز-رهائن-قرب-مدينة-روان-.html "We became ashamed because of what our compatriots are doing from terrorism and criminality and theft, violence and assaults and harassment .. one is walking on the street and is ashamed of himself when Europeans saw terrified him and Athasheunh in the metro and in public places and that you are tolerant bag was terror becomes doubly them .. we became Kalohouc outcasts and all because of our compatriots !!"
I understand a lot of the viewpoints in here, and while I don't think Islam or any other religion will ever be without it's bad apples, and while I do agree that bettering those who make us worse is key, I feel that taking away the temptation of using the already fueled hate for this religion would be very beneficial as well. I feel that these terrorist groups or extremists use Islam because its a hot topic and everyone is fearful of it, which in turn makes the media more likely to blast them and make them even more of a hot topic. It's like a vicious circle. If I can do anything to slow any part of this circle down, even a little bit, I feel like over time, things can change.
