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Sources: Rockets exploring a Yao Ming trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets25, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. SugarLandDream8

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    Also remember if Morey didn't trade Mcgrady and let his contract expire, the Rockets could have the cap space to sign someone good last summer. Don't forget what they gave up - Opportunity Cost.
     
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    Methinks Sugar doesn't understand how the salary cap works.
     
  3. SugarLandDream8

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    If they didn't resign Scola or Tmac and let their contract expire they had the cap space to sign a star PF.
     
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    Even with Tracy and Scola expiring wouln't be enough that comes out to only 6 or 7 million. Remember Rockets were over the thresehold and the salary cap came down thus closing the gap to sign a star player.
     
  5. SugarLandDream8

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    Do the math:

    No Tmac, Scola (7.7M), Jeffries (6.9M), Brad Miller (4.4M), JHill (2.7M)

    Add Back 3M for Landry who would be playing PF for us

    don't pick up Dorsey's option
     
  6. SugarLandDream8

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    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm

    Yao 17.6
    Battier 7.3
    Lowry 5.7 (didn't have to pick up)
    Landry 3

    the rest 2 mill or less.

    There was nothing stopping the Rockets from dumping salary like the Knicks or Heat either in trades
     
  7. TheDreams

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    What star PF would they have signed in your opinion?

    If they would have let T-Mac's expired. That means no Hill, Scola, Lowry, Martin, or Miller on this team. You are also assuming they have dealt Ariza for Lee at the beg. of FA.
     
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    You should probably look again at what the cap was last year and look at where that would have put us in relation to it. I'm posting from my phone so I don't feel like writing it all up.....calling Bima!
     
  9. bucket

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    The problem with your logic is that the Rockets were over the cap, not right at the cap. So even if they had cut X dollars of salary, they still wouldn't have been be X dollars under the cap.
     
  10. SugarLandDream8

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    They would have Landry for 3M this season who plays just as good as Scola in our offense and Landry was actually the 4th quarter go to guy.

    The reason why Houston wasn't competetive in the FA market was because Morey miscalcualted and didn't realize how important cap space was.

    There is also no reason why we couldn't dump Ariza and Battier's contracts for picks. With cap space guys like Amare, Felton, Bosh (maybe), maybe the other big 3 who knows.
     
  11. megastahr

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    Do severally need to have this discussion?..everyone here know we didn't have much cap space and if u look at the players that went in our range we were talking about

    No Martin, scola, hill, Lowry

    And add back Landry and say jj redick or warrick
     
  12. TheDreams

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    Bosh didn't want to come here. Our offer to him (S&T with TOR) was higher than the one he signed with Miami. Why would Lebron or Wade come here, when all 3 of them could play together in Miami?
     
  13. SugarLandDream8

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    Did Amare said he wouldn't come here? Or Boozer? Or Felton? Or xyz whomever?

    NY and Miami had a strategy to dump salary and sign 2 or 3 stars. Their strategy suceeded.

    Houston is the summer home of many NBA players. It's not like it's a city NBA players don't want to come to like Minesota.
     
  14. SugarLandDream8

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    He didn't want to come here because he would be the only star here. It MIGHT have been different if we dumped salary and had the means to get 2 stars.
     
  15. SugarLandDream8

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    Shane Battier with 1 year left in his contract was easily tradeable for an expiring contract if we threw in a draft pick. The same strategy NY and Miami did dumping salary we could have done so too and our assets were easier to dump. Battier or Jeffries.

    Anyways that's my opinion. The Rockets could easily have gone way under the salary cap if they wanted to and the Tmac trade was not so one sided as some would like us to believe. Just look at the Knicks record and ours and what they were last year before the trade. The trade allowed the Knicks the financial flexibility to do what they did and now they will have more this summer when Eddie Curry's contract expires and they might get Melo.
     
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    Dude i think your the only person on this bored that wasnt educated from all this discussion last year. If we renounced scola...and lowry and let tmac expire...we only had like 8 million under the cap.... scola was only making 3 ml and lowry only 1 ....so we werent saving that much from the salary cap threshold to begin with... the salaryies you are reffering to were what we could offer because of bird rights and restricted free agency.

    Not to mention say we did have enough....does signing amare and having landry make us better than scola, lowry,martin, and hill? specially now that PF is the least of our worries.

    never had a chance at bosh, bron, or wade...or gay or johnson for that matter...in fact looking back what morey did was pure genius.


    Because when he made the move no one new the big 3 already planned to go to miami and that johnson and gay would get signed so quickly to max deals by their teams.
     
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    The T-Mac trade failed for them. Their intention was to get two Max players and they didn't succeed in doing so. They were already going to be under the cap to sign one max player. They ended up losing J. Hill and a 2012 first round pick. That 2012 first round pick is huge because it's limiting their flexability in trading for Melo today. Walsh is already on record in saying he regrets trading that pick and he is going to regret it even more when the Nets end up with Melo.
     
  18. megastahr

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    sorry about my typing ... iphone while driving isnt wise......
     
  19. SugarLandDream8

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    He regrets it so much they just have to console themselves with going to the playoffs :eek: and being on espn, tnt, and abc all the time and have the financial flexibilty to get even better this offseason :eek:

    The trade worked out so badly for them that they are arguably the 3rd best team in the East when for a decade they were among the bottom 10 in the NBA. It worked out so great for us we are in last place in our division.

    Oh Walsh failed so badly and Morey eat his lunch :eek:
     
  20. TheDreams

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    What are you talking about? They could have done all the same things this past off season without trading for T-Mac. Jefferies and Curry would have both came off the books after this season. I agree they should like where they are going but show me how that T-Mac trade helped them this past off season when they were already going to be under the cap to make all the moves they ended up making.
     

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