Sources: Dmo to sign with Jazz if Favors misses extended time

It's over a month since we last time heard anything from him on social media. Not sure if it's a good sign for Rockets, but with his mentality - he most likely spending whole time in the gym. If he's healthy - we shall match any offer

 

Very nice theory. 5 stars for you. Jazz sign DMo to a big deal with a guaranteed 2nd year. They are fine whether we choose to match or not as one gets them a new player and the other basically eliminates us from signing Gordon Heyward next year.

My guess is Morey will not budge on a high second year (recall that the Jazz must offer a fully guaranteed 2nd year, as DMo is a RFA). If it's a reasonable deal where Morey thinks DMo could be worth more by next offseason then fine, but we've already seen him pass on Dragic to maintain flexibility.

 

One team is not 101. More trolling.

Everything I described is legit and not complicated.

 

Not trolling at all. It's a very legit take that all your ideas are overly complicated, certainly more complicated than what Will explained.

This isn't trolling, this is challenging you and your sources. If you simply stop saying you have sources, I'd leave you alone like I do all Dreamcasters.

And you still refuse to answer the question: Why would Utah both give Morey a lopsided trade (Diaw for Brewer) AND sign DMo for more than Morey would match. Versus just outbidding Morey and keeping Diaw.

And if you back off that statement to say they sign DMo for something Morey would match, then explain how that's a big payday for DMo.

 

That's fair, I think during that era (especially when he shifted gears from Yao/TMac officially), the perception was perhaps more warranted.

SI posted a great piece on Hinkie today by the way. I regret my comments earlier about Hinkie because it's probably true that he's also misunderstood.

Link below if anyone is interested, not going to derail the topic further.

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/11/30/sam-hinkie-after-the-process-philadelphia-76ers

 

Diaw for Brewer is not a lopsided trade. Good Lord man. Go away.

 

Why would the Jazz give us another $7.5 million in cap space to steal Heyward away from them if it was a straight up deal. Besides burning $7.5 million of their own money on a player that has the true value of a minimum salaried player.

 

Jopataholic reminds me of an old circus ring leader from back in the day. Always loud and talkative, constantly trying to grab your attention with promises of grandeur and flashy stuff. When in reality it's all just nonsense trying to sell and build something up.

Gets asked to name said team willing to offer large contact (but wants to wait for some dam reason?). Responds with saying he's named it 15 times, like saying it 16 times would bother him.

Gets called out and asked multiple questions and given a platform to rebuttal and choices the one mundane question and blows it off including all the other questions. (This actually happens all the time)

You have some real knowledge on the game and the league @basketballholic but your insist on driving everyone insane with nonsense and 14 paragraph posts, except in response to legitimate concerns and questions.

Give it a rest bruh

 

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It seems like Morey wants him only if his contract is tradeable. He knows Anderson, Capela and NeNe have the 4/5 spot down and that we can go small with Ariza and Dekker at the 4. He is too invested in Anderson, but if D-Mo comes back and looks good maybe we can trade him for a backup PG.

D-Mo was a big part of the reason the Rockets were so bad in rebounding all these years even when we had Dwight gobbling them up. D-Mo can only box out his man, but he won't go up and grab them.

His 3pter is shaky, but he's still captain hook when he takes his time and that is a valuable asset.

 

1. To get DMo
2. Because they're not worried about losing GH. He's their franchise. They're going to give him the huge 5-year deal that nobody can touch and give him the keys to the franchise that he's already temporarily holding. GH ain't coming here to play second fiddle to JH on a year less deal with smaller raises. GH is the Jazz. They know it. He knows it. The only team with a chance to abscond with him is Indy.

 

Diaw is perfect for our MDAs system.

 

Really not that implausible.

When DMo signs, the Jazz could easily point to "we had a hole, so we filled it with the best possible option".
The Rockets could also say "DMo had back surgery, and we didn't want to take the chance. We already tried to trade him..."

Then at the unofficial pre-deadline deadline (mid-December, whenever the last players that can be acquired via trade are eligible to be packaged in a trade at the deadline) the Rockets could trade Brewer and a 2nd to Utah for Diaw, claiming that they wanted to clear Brewer's salary and acquire a player that fits well into MDAs system.
Utah could easily claim that they have a glut in the frontcourt whenever Favors comes back (Gobert, Lyles, DMo and Favors), wanted more defensive length and the pick.

Brewer + Dmo + 2nd for Diaw. That seems like a fair deal, and both teams have plausible deniability. Houston does it because they get to keep their 1st round pick, which is what it would cost to unload Brewer next summer. Utah fills a hole and gets a pick. All phases of this seem fairly reasonable and everybody, including DMo, has an incentive to keep their mouth shut.

Not corroborating whatever BBH is claiming, but it is reasonable.

 

This is probably true. Of course Morey wouldn't mind having DMo as a player for the right price. But if he really wanted DMo to play, he could have upped the money but kept the contract short (e.g. 14M for one year, instead of 7M per year for 2 years). That way he would be satisfying DMo's demand for security and still kept the flexibility without much risk. But a 14M contract would be much less tradeable than a 7M+unguaranteed 2nd year contract in case DMo's back didn't hold up.

 

Don't need all the plausible deniability. Two seperate and distinct transactions not executed simultaneously or overlapping in time. Nothing league office can do to deny it. It's two fully legal transactions. League cannot even adjudicate whether or not brewer/diaw is fair value. Because they not anybody else knows the future. It's ridiculous to even imply anything is illegal about the trade.

 

There can be no compensation given to a team in return for their submitting or not submitting an offer sheet, or for matching or not matching an offer to a restricted free agent. For example, Houston could not sign Golden State's restricted free agent to an offer sheet, then send Golden State a draft pick in exchange for their not matching the offer.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q44

So do we think the league would sit idly by and let the Rockets and Utah do a lopsided trade that effectively circumvents this rule? Do we think Morey would do a big f u like this to Silver?

 

This is so perfect it should be a sticky post at the the top of this thread.

 

Maybe there was a bad reputation in the past. I don't know. But players certainly aren't unhappy or distracted NOW.

We have an issue with one guy right now and he isn't even on our roster now because he's still in RFA and hasn't been willing to sign anywhere. But it seems like that's coming to its conclusion in one manner or another. Every rotation player is a very happy camper. Winning has that effect. But also there is a chemistry among this year's rotation players (and even our bench guys) that sort of puts the lie to that in a modern context even if it were true in the past. I don't know if it was or not but it's not hard to see how happy every player under contract is right now. It's sort of extraordinary actually. All you have to do is look at their faces after any good play we make. They are loving being here and it's making them great.

 

So you're saying there aren't any more Playas Only Meetings?

 

I swear I don't remember the last time cyber was right about something