Agreed. THAT should be the question that Verducci asks him. "Why didn't you stop it?" At this point, if Luhnow told them to continue it, he should be free/able to say that. I doubt that was the case though. More likely, Hinch (like everybody else) didn't think this was that big of a deal since most teams were utilizing the live video monitors in some way/form.
I am still baffled as to why none of the guilty parties has said the plain truth. Why would Hinch not just say: “I knew about it, and I knew it was against the rules, so I didn’t like it, and I let that be known. But I also knew everyone else was using tech to steal, and I assumed other teams were signaling during at bats, and that combined with my hesitation to go against my bench coach and veteran players caused me not to act more decisively. In hindsight, I should have plainly told my guys to stop. I didn’t do that, and that’s why I got suspended. Lesson learned.”
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-mos...gN0MP6UVP_kjdai7ysUr9OHWSPA7WEXWjYKUsXW1U5ClU From thew second table in this article. Astros Banging Scheme Leverage Index Leverage At-bats Cumulative Run Value Low Leverage 308 1.94 Medium Leverage 262 1.97 High Leverage 53 -2.00 _____ If this information is correct (and I'm reading it correctly), the Astros gained about 2 runs overall in the cheating scheme. The punishment is worth about 33 runs.
Maybe it's not true? It's funny how everyone keeps saying this, but no one has any evidence of it past whenever that 2017 memo came out saying the new penalties would be harsh. (Except for the Red Sox, who are getting punished next week.)
I'm not sure what Aaron's deal is and it's hard to take seriously given this is all basically the exact same thing that has been going on for decades. He could really hit a baseball though.
I presume the National media will not run with this data and will chose to use the difference in strikeout rates from 2016 and 2017 as the advantage gained.
Why would they? No one cares the outcome of the cheating. It's the act that matters. And overall numbers are irrelevant anyway - if it helped them score a run in any single critical postseason game, then losing some runs in other games is irrelevant.
The same as was against the Astros before Fiers squealed? The only thing surprising about Astros getting caught for sign stealing was that they were caught. Red Sox and Yankees destroyed breaking balls/offspeed pitches at home and were impotent against them on the road in the playoffs. Dodgers, oddly, destroyed breaking/offspeed pitches everywhere and miraculously have hitters that can't hit offspeed/breaking balls destroy them in Dodgers Blue.
Exactly. And the same as you or I having committed murder. It requires evidence to go from random speculation to truth. Although, technically, the banging video/audio evidence was out there. It's just that no one connected the dots.
I wonder if Betts or Price have anything they'd like to admit now that they're seemingly heading out of Boston?! Mookie might have more to lose given he won the MVP in '18, but maybe one of, if not both, of them have an axe to grind with the Sawx?!
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28498706/espn-jessica-mendoza-says-mike-fiers-gone-mlb-first https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...igns-extension-espn-resigns-mets-adviser-role Commissioner Rob Manfred said during this week's owners meetings that he was not comfortable with Mendoza and former Boston Red Sox pitcher Pedro Martinez being both team employees and broadcasters. "It's a topic that remains under discussion internally,'' Manfred said. "It caused a lot of complications, not just on this particular incident or comments, but in general.''
He didn't think "right is right" and "wrong is wrong" until he was caught. It just seems very self serving to me for him now to comment. I actually have more respect for Luhnow's "**** all of you" attitude on all of this. There have been very very few people that were as respected and genuinely liked as AJ Hinch and that shouldn't be forgotten....... but grow a back bone. Accept what your involvement was, learn from it and move on.
AG Hinch comes across much worse than the GM in this whole thing, the GM didn't protest so loudly just a couple months earlier how innocent they were. shows you style goes a long way in this world. Hinch will be back managing long before the GM, MLB had it in for the GM - he pissed off a lot of people with his style and arrogance. Paybacks are a b****.
I agree with Nook again on this, I am not a fan of Trump's policies, but if you are going to go down that path of being the villain to many people, then embrace it, and don't be wishy washy about it - just seems too soft and scheming by Hinch - when you now know he will say anything that serves his goals to further his interests - and it seems he will get a pass , and be back managing the Mets in a year.
"On Tuesday, The Athletic reported — using three anonymous sources — the Boston Red Sox used the video replay room near the dugout to aid in electronically stealing signs in 2018, when the team won 108 games during the regular season and the World Series. The report said players would wander into the unguarded replay room during regular season games to decipher opponents' sign sequences. That information would be relayed to a runner on second base. The runner would signal to the hitter whether the incoming pitch was a fastball — right foot off the bag first — or an offspeed offering — left foot first. This system, according to The Athletic, only worked with a runner on second or sometimes first. The Red Sox led the league in runs scored in 2018 (876). The method stopped during the postseason when MLB instituted an in-person monitor inside the video replay rooms, a practice that carried over into the 2019 season."
Also, why does everything have to be post memo? Teams knew it was wrong......... The Red Sox were fined for using an Apple watch to cheat in September of 2017. They were punished for it, it was a known problem.
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