Wait. So you're saying the coaches don't get credit for Watt, Johnson, Cushing, Foster, Brown, Demeco? You must be new here. Welcome to ClutchFans.
2 weeks to go into the season and people(lance and his laughtrack) were like lolz kubes! they're not even going to make the playoffs. Now the experts they draft better. =/ not the case at all. Our defenses, after the miami game, was on par with the broncos. We just need to take a gamble on some misfits with some talent. I think Hal will be an outstanding FS, now we need to pair him up with kareem jackson as the next safety. Make a run at Janoris Jenkins. I know his attitude isn't the best and is flashy but he'd be worth the risk. We have talent. It sucks one baldy made our d, which had an outstanding game, an after thought.
Yeah, The Broncos didn't have to dominate tough offenses like we did! The juggernauts that are Jacksonville, Tennessee, The Luckless Colts once.
Spoiler re: Texans/Broncos drafting 2007 1-10 DT Amobi Okoye | 1-17 DE Jarvis Moss ------------------- | 2-56 DE Tim Crowder 3-73 WR Jacoby Jones | 3-70 OT Ryan Harris 4-123 CB Fred Bennett | 4-121 DT Marcus Thomas 5-144 S Brandon Harrison | ------------------- 5-163 OT Brandon Frye | ---------------------- 6-183 G Kasey Studdard | --------------------- 7-218 LB Zach Diles | ------------------------ 2008 1-26 OT Duane Brown | 1-12 OT Ryan Clady ------------------- | 2-42 WR Eddie Royal 3-79 CB Antwuan Molden | ---------------- 3-89 RB Steve Slaton | ------------------ 4-118 LB Xavier Adibi | 4-108 G/C Kory Lichtensteiger --------------------- | 4-119 CB Jack Williams 5-151 DT Frank Okam | 5-139 RB Ryan Torain ------------------- | 5-148 DT Carlton Powell 6-173 S Dominique Barber | 6-183 FB/LB Spencer Larsen 7-223 QB Alex Brink | 7-220 S Josh Barrett ------------------- | 7-227 RB Peyton Hillis 2009 1-15 LB Brian Cushing | 1-12 RB Knowshon Moreno --------------------- | 1-18 LB/DE Robert Ayers 2-46 LB/DE Connor Barwin | 2-37 CB Alphonso Smith ------------------------ | 2-48 S Darcel McBath ------------------------ | 2-64 TE Richard Quinn 3-77 G Antoine Caldwell | ---------------------- 4-112 S Glover Quin | 4-114 S David Bruton 4-122 TE Anthony Hill | 4-132 G Seth Olsen 5-152 TE James Casey | 5-141 WR Kenny McKinley 6-188 CB Brice McCain | 6-174 QB Tom Brandstater 7-223 S Troy Nolan | 7-225 C Blake Schlueter 2010 1-20 CB Kareem Jackson | 1-22 WR Demaryius Thomas ---------------------- | 1-25 QB Tim Tebow 2-58 RB Ben Tate | 2-45 G Zane Beadles 3-81 DT Earl Mitchell | 3-80 C J.D. Walton --------------------- | 3-87 WR Eric Decker 4-102 LB Darryl Sharpton | ---------------- 4-118 TE Garrett Graham | ----------------- 5-144 CB Sherrick McManis | 5-137 Perrish Cox 6-187 G Shelley Smith | 6-183 C Eric Olsen 6-197 WR Trindon Holliday | -------------- 7-227 TE Dorin Dickerson | 7-225 CB Syd'Quan Thompson ------------------------ | 7-232 DE Jammie Kirlew 2011 1-11 DE J.J. Watt | 1-2 LB/DE Von Miller 2-42 LB/DE Brooks Reed | 2-45 S Rahim Moore 2-60 CB Brandon Harris | 2-46 OT Orlando Franklin ---------------------- | 3-67 LB Nate Irving 4-127 CB Roc Carmichael | 4-108 S Quinton Carter ----------------------- | 4-129 TE Julius Thomas 5-144 S Shiloh Keo | --------------------------- 5-152 QB T.J. Yates | -------------------------- ------------------- | 6-189 LB Mike Mohamed 7-214 OT Derek Newton | 7-204 TE Virgil Green 7-254 LB/DE Cheta Ozougwu | 7-247 DE Jeremy Beal 2012 1-26 LB Whitney Mercilus | ----------------- ------------------------ | 2-36 DT Derek Wolfe ------------------------ | 2-57 QB Brock Osweiler 3-68 WR DeVier Posey | 3-67 RB Ronnie Hillman 3-76 G Brandon Brooks | --------------------- 4-99 C Ben Jones | 4-101 CB Omar Bolden 4-121 WR Keshawn Martin | 4-108 G/C Philip Blake 4-126 DE Jared Crick | ------------------------- 5-161 K Randy Bullock | 5-137 DE Malik Jackson 6-195 OT Nick Mondek | 6-188 LB Danny Trevathan 2013 1-27 WR DeAndre Hopkins | 1-28 DT Sylvester Williams 2-57 S D.J. Swearinger | 2-58 RB Montee Ball 3-89 OT Brennan Williams | 3-90 CB Kayvon Webster 3-95 DE Sam Montgomery | ------------------------ 4-124 LB Trevardo Williams | -------------------- ---------------------- | 5-146 DE Quanterus Smith ---------------------- | 5-161 WR Tavarres King 6-176 G David Quessenberry | 6-173 G Vinston Painter 6-195 WR Alan Bonner | ----------------------------- 6-198 DT Chris Jones | ----------------------------- 6-201 TE Ryan Griffin | ---------------------------- ----------------------- | 7-234 QB Zac Dysert 2014 1-1 LB/DE Jadeveon Clowney | 1-31 CB Bradley Roby 2-33 G Xavier Su'a-Filo | 2-56 WR Cody Latimer 3-65 TE C.J. Fiedorowicz | 3-95 G Michael Schofield 3-83 DT Louis Nix | ------------------------------- 4-135 QB Tom Savage | ----------------------------- --------------------- | 5-156 LB Lamin Barrow 6-177 DE Jeoffrey Pagan | 6-207 C Matt Paradis 6-181 RB Alfred Blue | ---------------------- 6-211 FB Jay Prosch | ----------------------- 7-216 S Andre Hal | 7-242 LB Corey Nelson 7-256 S Lonnie Ballentine | ------------- 2015 1-16 CB Kevin Johnson | 1-23 DE/LB Shane Ray 2-43 LB Benardrick McKinney | 2-59 OT Ty Sambrailo 3-70 WR Jaelen Strong | 3-92 TE Jeff Heuerman ------------------- | 4-133 C/G Max Garcia 5-175 WR Keith Mumphery | 5-164 CB Lorenzo Doss 6-211 LB Reshard Cliett | 6-203 NT Darius Kilgo 6-216 DT Christian Covington | ---------------- 7-235 RB Kenny Hilliard | 7-250 QB Trevor Siemian -------------------- | 7-251 DB Taurean Nixon -------------------- | 7-252 DB Josh Furman
Actually Kubiak was not bad at drafting and finding fas like Foster. Those Texans teams were legit contenders a couple years. Brown, Brooks, DeAndre, Myers, Winston. Even Jacoby and Ben Tate had some really good years. And it should actually be more impressive that he did better than the prior coach in Denver and Baltimore without "his guys" That's bill O'Briens excuse right? Still waiting to get his QB?
If you you put it on him and compare with the rest of the league objectively, you would want to keep him as your GM.
Manning coming back from a broken neck or something. And we had Schaub, who at that point was still good.
bengals, jets and to some extent the bills after the 1st qtr, hal dropped that pick 6. we dominated the chief's offense in the playoffs, even just bad qb play on our part would have had that game tied all through out. The luck argument doesn't carry weight, colts were doing better without him. people don't like admitting that we do have talent, just even average qb play. Not many divisions have more than 2 good teams in it. 2014, our division had 2 of them. Not our fault the colts don't invest in a o line. a division of raiders, san diego, chiefs isn't that much better. those are teams our defense can do outstanding against.
Believe it or not, the Broncos QB play was worse than the Texans this season... their defense was better. The Texans defense showed flashes... but any defense that is capable of putting up clunkers like the Atlanta and Miami games is still going to be a serious work in progress (that will take more than one mid-season adjustment to fix).
The Texans 2015 defense was not as good as the 2011 defense, not to talk of the Broncos 2015 defense. They are on the right path and should be better in 2016. What we saw at the end of the season, especially with the pass rush, should get us excited about the upcoming season. I would like to see either Mercilus or Clowney learn how to play effectively on both sides or the Texans get a better option than John Simon. They gotta keep Demps but honestly he should be a backup not a starter. They don't have a good track record with FA safeties but I would love to see the Texans go after Weddle.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gary Kubiak & the Texans stayed away from "character" players. Just won a SB w/ suspended players Talib, Von, Wolfe, (stage 1) Shane Ray etc</p>— Jayson Braddock (@JaysonBraddock) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaysonBraddock/status/696558653495603200">February 8, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The Broncos were also one of the luckiest teams in the NFL. Regular season they started like 9-0 or something but that consisted of some of the most unconvincing wins against poor competition ever. Had to go to OT to beat the Browns, for example. Beat the Patriots at home in OT, but the Patriots were really hit hard with injuries. In the Playoffs barely beat the Steelers with a hobbled Ben and no Antonio Brown. Up until the Patriots game, the Broncos were lucky to be in the AFC Title game. Then the defense just caught fire and ran away with it.
They had the best defense in football this year; there's nothing lucky about that, especially when you consider they were good - but by no means exceptional - at turning opponents over (they actually finished -4 for the season). They held 11 of their 18 opponents under 20 points, including all 3 playoff games. In my lifetime, their playoff run compares favorably to the '85 Bears, '86 Giants, '00 Ravens and '07 Giants in terms of defenses that carried mediocre (or worse) offenses to championships. The good news: those teams seldom repeat because one side can only compensate for so long; no unit is ever perfect, and certainly not over the course of multiple seasons.
I wonder if anybody is saying this about the Colts. Sure, they have Andrew Luck but Peyton has outplayed him. Two superbowl trips vs 1 Conf championship. Superbowl win this year vs missing the playoffs. WHY DID THE COLTS LET PEYTON GO?
