1 bad year and an injury and guys give up on a player?? Ok if thats the case lets get rid of Yao because he is giving the Rockets the same problem His soap opera is just not as annoying apposed to McGrady's. Trade both of the injury prone guys and start over.
Yeah, IF the Rockets stayed healthy, they had a good shot. Too bad we couldn't rely on our $20mm star to rehab properly. One of the worst things about the NBA is the guaranteed contract. McGrady's actions last year are a compelling reason why they should be restructured. Basketball becomes easy if you have stars playing. You're an idiot. Do you have a job? How often do you openly defy your boss?
That's not the issue. T-Mac deliberately sabotaged the trade. He screwed over the Rockets. He doesn't deserve to play. That's why he's not getting a buyout. The Rockets are going to let him sit his ass on the bench if he's not traded this time.
That doesn't matter. U can trade for guys out of the season and decline a physical as long as you know that. The nets were looking at 2010 free agency when they shipped kidd and jefferson out and moving to brooklyn. Trading for a player injured wouldn't have done anything to derail that.
I won't even begin to fathom how you think. Lets assume, wade had nobody on his team, so his team is playing bad. Heat is willing to trade wade for Tmac because they are losing money and in a financial crisis. Tmac's agent tell him he's going to be traded, tmac fake an injury and is willing to go to extend of surgery to block the trade. How the hell is that any different from the trade scenerio with VC except wade is much much better??? The point is, Tmac screwed us, it doesn't matter if VC was good or not, its the intent to screw the organization because of his own desires.
uh, because why trade VC for someone who would make $38mm and possibly not play a minute for you. their fans wouldn't have stood for that. a gimpy tmac...sure. one that may not play for you at all, that's pushing it.
I remember hearing details about Vince to Houston but I remember most posters here had a problem with his long contract. I honestly feel we are better off right now and next season we will be much better than if we had an aging Vince. The idea that Vince would have been able to stop Yao's injury is preposterous.
Yao never quit on the team Yao was never an alleged problem in the locker room Yao rehabs all injuries vigorously Yao doesn't talk to the press about internal issues before notifying the team Yao didn't announce a surgery prematurely to halt being traded to a horrible team Oh, and Yao helped us to get out of the first round :grin: HUGE difference
Maybe, or maybe they were hoping that T-Mac could at least be a partial asset with a change in scenery. It worked for Sheed, and I don't think it was much of a secret that McGrady was having problems with the organization last year. Or maybe the Nets were planning on turning around and shipping McGrady somewhere else. No McGrady, no third party trade.
All you do is get that team to add in another player or draft pick down the road. They traded jefferson for Yi and simmons and traded kidd for harris,diop, and dallas gave van horn free money along with devean george. All the moves they are making were designed to have a small number of contracts and make a run at the class of 2010. They gave up on winning games and competing awhile ago. Even when they were contending their stadium was empty. They could have made the trade anyway, collect the insurance money until tracy cam back this yr and buy him out like they did rafer or look how they're purging and cutting players now to be the worse team in the league and alot of cap room. When teams go into this mode, it doesn't matter whether guys can play or not.
The Nets would have had a hard time telling their fans that they traded their best player for a guy who was injured but had a nice contract. The expiring deal is why a team would trade for McGrady but at the time, New Jersey wasn't in a position to tell their fans that they did the deal just for cap space. Instead, they waited until the summer to get something back... Garbage or not, they got something and were able to sell Lee as a young piece to build to their nucleus. Giving up mid season is hard for some times to admit. Some do and will this year but others don't want to trade their best player for an injured buy expiring player under any circumstances.
on this first part, sheed was traded to a title contender and was in a contract year. The motivation of both parties are very different than this. The 2nd part was the mistrust bewteen all parties involved. The doctors told tracy he would play and it would get stronger and it didn't. He was told after a few weeks when shane came back, maybe he could do some methods to make the knee stronger and that didn't work either. His issues has always been with rafer and then when artest came in it became artest, no one else.
So u don't think giving up jefferson for yi and a injured bobby simmons wasn't a hard sell? Thats why i said the rockets could've added a player or draft pick to make the sell easier. What other reason would the nets have trading for tracy when he's in and out the lineup and having his worse season since his rookie year?
No, because Yi was able to be marketed as an Asian addition. He could bring in more people who just wanted to see him play. See the Toyota Center attendance with Yao in and out of the lineup. McGrady still has that box office draw so the Nets ticket sales would have gone up with that. I think he would have played the season out like doctors said he should if he was traded. He just didn't want to be. He was able to play, he just decided not to. He just quit on the Rockets last season. And felt like announcing the surgery was his way of payback towards an organization he felt betrayed by... He had/has issues with more than just two players. There are more players than ones who are no longer here. At least 2 members of the starting lineup don't like him at all. The organization had issues with him including the most powerful man.
empty? they still averaged over 15,000 seats a night. if you look at what they got back for Jefferson and Kidd...they got players who can physically play. Hell, the Kidd trade was fine...Devin Harris is a good, young PG. They still have fans and those fans would go ape**** if they traded VC for a player who might miss a season and a half... Sorry, don't buy your argument that "it doesn't matter". Sure they were looking at 2010 money being freed up, but you have to get SOMETHING in return and TMac getting microfracture surgery wasn't "something". He wasn't supposed to even be back until February. Then it still takes a while to get back. You think that their fans would have renewed season tickets if they traded VC for someone who would miss all of 08-09 and maybe the bulk of 09-10. No way
If the nets had a run a physical than the trade would have canceled, and if the nets just wanted tmacs expiring contract so why would they care if tmac was hurt.
because giving up VC for nothing but an expiring contract sounds a lot worse than giving him up for expirings of players who can definitely play before their contracts expire 1.5 years later
