51. Ty Lawson(44) 42. Goran Dragic(35) 41. Jeff Teague(92) 34. Kyle Lowry(30) 33. Eric Bledsoe(33) 27. Mike Conley(32) 24. Damian Lillard(22) 23. Kyrie Irving(21) 13. John Wall(31) 7. Russell Westbrook(4) 6. Chris Paul(3) 4. Steph Curry(8) According to SI's Top 100 list, Ty Lawson is the #12 PG in the NBA.
winning always makes you look better. kevin love could have stayed with the wolves last year had better stats and stayed healthy and would have probably been a little lower on the list this year.
I actually disagree. Timberwolves Kevin Love is thought of so much higher than Cavaliers Kevin Love, and if anything Kevin Love is probably underrated at this point given how much of a scapegoat he was this year.
Those are both fair rankings. I'm not saying Green(Or Klay) is a scrub at all - I think he's a monster defender...he's just not as good overall as the ranking they gave him. Offensively he's still a very inconsistent although he is a fairly intelligent passer out of the high post. Your right it's a chicken/egg argument for Draymond and the GS defensive system, but the end result is the same - the defense wouldn't be as good if Draymond left, and Draymond wouldn't be near as good if he were playing on most other teams.
I'm as high on Anthony Davis as anyone, you're blind if you can't see how good he is, but ahead of James right now? i'm not convinced.
What advanced defensive stats? The only advanced defensive stat I know (ESPN's DRPM) makes Cousins look good. I'd like to learn of more stats. Hating one's coach and one's team's sucking impacting one's commitment might be understandable. I trust your bball analysis. Why am I so out of step with the rest of the world on Kawhi Leonard? I just don't see him as a guy who creates offense and draws double teams. On that note, I don't even know if Anthony Davis creates a lot of his own shots. Seems like that isn't valued as much in the NBA as it used to be. Look at how relatively little Lou Williams and Monta Ellis received with their new contracts this summer as evidence.
In my opinion, green are too low, red are too high. 100. Giannis Antetokounmpo 99. Wes Matthews(72) 98. Donatas Motiejunas 97. Nerlens Noel 96. Josh Smith(53) 95. Roy Hibbert(52) 94. Reggie Jackson 93. J.J. Redick(93) 92. Lou Williams 91. Andrew Wiggins 90. Taj Gibson(75) 89. Amir Johnson(71) 88. Isaiah Thomas(90) 87. Ricky Rubio(87) 86. Kenneth Faried(77) 85. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 84. Robin Lopez(82) 83. Deron Williams(45) 82. Joe Johnson(51) 81. DeMarre Carroll 80. George Hill 79. Brandon Knight 78. Tobias Harris 77. Jonas Valanciunas(80) 76. Andrew Bogut(65) 75. Thaddeus Young(69) 74. Tiago Splitter(70) 73. Danilo Gallinari(62) 72. Ryan Anderson(59) 71. Paul Pierce(46) 70. Tristan Thompson 69. Hassan Whiteside 68. Timofey Mozgov 67. Nikola Vucevic(89) 66. Chandler Parsons(56) 65. Trevor Ariza(83) 64. Markieff Morris 63. Marcin Gortat(58) 62. Bradley Beal(76) 61. DeMar DeRozan(61) 60. Derrick Rose(23) 59. Jrue Holiday(50) 58. Tyreke Evans(84) 57. Monta Ellis(66) 56. Luol Deng(55) 55. Nicolas Batum(43) 54. Kobe Bryant(24) 53. Tony Parker(15) 52. Rudy Gay(67) 51. Ty Lawson(44) 50. Danny Green(96) 49. Zach Randolph(42) 48. Greg Monroe(68) 47. Al Jefferson(26) 46. Kyle Korver(74) 45. Khris Middleton 44. Andre Iguodala(29) 43. Joakim Noah(17) 42. Goran Dragic(35) 41. Jeff Teague(92) 40. Pau Gasol(49) 39. Rudy Gobert 38. Brook Lopez(36) 37. Derrick Favors(79) 36. Tyson Chandler(39) 35. Andre Drummond(37) 34. Kyle Lowry(30) 33. Eric Bledsoe(33) 32. Paul Millsap(34) 31. Gordon Hayward(57) 30. Dwyane Wade(20) 29. DeAndre Jordan(38) 28. Dirk Nowitzki(14) 27. Mike Conley(32) 26. Klay Thompson(54) 25. Serge Ibaka(19) 24. Damian Lillard(22) 23. Kyrie Irving(21) 22. Chris Bosh(18) 21. Al Horford(25) 20. Paul George 19. Dwight Howard(9) 18. Jimmy Butler(98) 17. Kevin Love(7) 16. Draymond Green 15. Carmelo Anthony(11) 14. DeMarcus Cousins(27) 13. John Wall(31) 12. LaMarcus Aldridge(12) 11. Tim Duncan(5) 10. Kawhi Leonard(28) 9. Marc Gasol(16) 8. Blake Griffin(10) 7. Russell Westbrook(4) 6. Chris Paul(3) 5. James Harden(13) 4. Steph Curry(8) 3. Anthony Davis(4) 2. Kevin Durant(2) 1. LeBron James(1)
Way overrated? No, they really don't. Boogie's DRPM was excellent, he allowed the same number of shots at the rim as DeAndre Jordan (and allowed a lower FG% on those shots), and the Kings were 7ppg worse defensively per 100 poss with him on the bench. On top of that, he draws more charges than any big in the league, he gets a ton of steals, AND is one of the game's best defensive rebounders. Cousins was a very good defensive player last year.
As long as Harden was in the top 5, I wasn't going to complain. Personally I think he's the 2nd best player in the League behind lebron beacuse they both bend defenses and can control an entire game in a way curry KD and AD just can't.....but I can't be mad at the guys ranked ahead of him their all mvp/hof caliber too. I think after this season AD and Harden will be 1 and 2 next year, just a hunch but I think Harden is going to have a monster year like maybe 30ppg with 6/6 on 48/40/90. The games is going to open up in ways he hasn't seen since his last season in OKC.
