Should've never traded Rudy Gay. Morey never would've never made that trade.

here we go again... LOL

 

Morey is the one that went to les with some stats and explained why they should make the trade. I will leave it at that too.

 

seriously? let it go already.

 

fail... has been discussed before, if gay was here it wouldnt be the same team... i think i prefer shane... proven.

 

how many of these have i seen? wtf?

 

FYI, this has been the most beaten-to-death topic on this message board over the last 3 years.

And from the oft-cited Michael Lewis piece on Battier from last season:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2

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When Morey came to the Rockets, a huge chunk of the team’s allotted payroll — the N.B.A. caps payrolls and taxes teams that exceed them — was committed, for many years to come, to two superstars: Tracy *McGrady and Yao Ming. Morey had to find ways to improve the Rockets without spending money. “We couldn’t afford another superstar,” he says, “so we went looking for nonsuperstars that we thought were undervalued.” He went looking, essentially, for underpaid players. “That’s the scarce resource in the N.B.A.,” he says. “Not the superstar but the undervalued player.” Sifting the population of midlevel N.B.A. players, he came up with a list of 15, near the top of which was the Memphis Grizzlies’ forward Shane Battier. This perplexed even the man who hired Morey to rethink basketball. “All I knew was Shane’s stats,” Alexander says, “and obviously they weren’t great. He had to sell me. It was hard for me to see it.”

Alexander wasn’t alone. It was, and is, far easier to spot what Battier doesn’t do than what he does. His conventional statistics are unremarkable: he doesn’t score many points, snag many rebounds, block many shots, steal many balls or dish out many assists. On top of that, it is easy to see what he can never do: what points he scores tend to come from jump shots taken immediately after receiving a pass. “That’s the telltale sign of someone who can’t ramp up his offense,” Morey says. “Because you can guard that shot with one player. And until you can’t guard someone with one player, you really haven’t created an offensive situation. Shane can’t create an offensive situation. He needs to be open.” For fun, Morey shows me video of a few rare instances of Battier scoring when he hasn’t *exactly been open. Some large percentage of them came when he was being guarded by an inferior defender — whereupon Battier backed him down and tossed in a left jump-hook. “This is probably, to be honest with you, his only offensive move,” Morey says. “But look, see how he pump fakes.” Battier indeed pump faked, several times, before he shot over a defender. “He does that because he’s worried about his shot being blocked.” Battier’s weaknesses arise from physical limitations. Or, as Morey puts it, “He can’t dribble, he’s slow and hasn’t got much body control.”
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Rudy Gay is the WORST defender in the league, go look up the stats if you doubt me.

 

I was at this game against the Lakers where Shane hit the game-winning 3 after the Lakers made an amazing comeback with less than 1 minute or so left and almost down by double digits. Had Lakers fans who I was taunting ready to rub the loss in my face, but Batman came to the rescue. Great night, and opening night in opposing team's arena!

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http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=271030013

So the trade doesn't bother me one bit! :grin:

 

Shane Battier is the WORST offensive player in the league, go look up
the stats if you doubt me.

 

Actually there was a statistical analysis done that pretty much proved Rudy Gay's defense led to the most points for the opposing team, which in most cases constitutes poor defensive performance.

Shane Battier in the meantime has a career plus/minus of nearly +6, which is on par with most superstars in the league past and present.

But continue to be impressed by an average player on a poor team who occasionally makes flashy dunks that make sportscenter and continue to devalue and ignore the understated value of Shane Battier. It really makes you sound intelligent.

 

http://www.82games.com/0809/ONSORT5.HTM

He ranks last in defensive on/off

That means when he is off the court his team is 9.3 POINTS better defensively.

 

You replied 5 times to your own thread, so much for the last time.

Yeah, Moneyball is the main reason this team hasn't gotten any new star players. He believes in cheap late draft picks that can be above average roleplayers. That's why Les should replace Morey with somebody that wants to get star players.

 

Unfortunate he had to go to one the worst organization in the league, Im sure if he was under our coaching a staff we could have developed him into and even better player, where that seems to be a strength of our coaching staff.

 

I did.

http://www.82games.com/0809/ONSORT3.HTM

he's above average, when he is on the court his team is 2.3 points better off.