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Scott Kazmir Traded to Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by bobloblaw, Jul 23, 2015.

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  1. bobloblaw

    bobloblaw Contributing Member

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hinch said Velasquez will not start in KC. Will come out of bullpen. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a></p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/624321138034786304">July 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  2. The Beard

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    His road ERA the past couple of years is in the 3.7 range. He has been very good against the other teams in our division. He isn't really a Price/Cueto type of Ace, but he is certainly a #2/3 type and will make a big impact for us over the next couple of months
     
    #182 The Beard, Jul 23, 2015
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    I'd be down with that. If they can't come here, then keep them in the NL.
     
    #183 Fyreball, Jul 23, 2015
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  4. donkeypunch

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    Hinch just said Feldman in rotation, VV to bullpen.
     
    #184 donkeypunch, Jul 23, 2015
  5. The Beard

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    Interesting. Certainly has the arm to make a big impact down there

    With his injury history a little surprised they are going that route though
     
    #185 The Beard, Jul 23, 2015
  6. Nimo

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    Makes the most sense to me
     
    #186 Nimo, Jul 23, 2015
  7. DaChamp

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    I'm hoping if there are more moves, it's for 1B, reliever or catcher. Seems like we have the starters we need for a run.

    Luhnow also needs to make some moves to make room on the 25 man roster, in light of the Kazmir trade and when Lowrie/Springer get back. Wouldn't be surprised to see Singleton or Carter traded for prospects if he can't flip those guys in a trade for quality help down the stretch (again, that would be 1B, catcher or reliever).
     
    #187 DaChamp, Jul 23, 2015
  8. The Beard

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    I agree those would be the best "fits"....but I believe Luhnow when he said earlier they would continue to look for "talent"....I think if he sees a deal that he thinks improves us somewhere, and it makes sense in what we are giving up, he will be willing to do so. Whether than is in the Pen, 1B, Catcher, OF or even another upgrade in the rotation.
     
    #188 The Beard, Jul 23, 2015
  9. Harden2Dwight

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    he'll be back in the rotation once feldman struggles.
     
    #189 Harden2Dwight, Jul 23, 2015
  10. Joe Joe

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    I like this deal for Astros. A's made a good deal for themselves.

    A's got more expected WAR from deal.

    Astros improved their playoff odds by about 9% this season. Trade does not likely cost Astros a combined 9% in future playoff odds from the future. Well worth the surcharge for current expected WAR versus future expected WAR
     
    #190 Joe Joe, Jul 23, 2015
  11. raining threes

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    It does, Hopefully Lucroy is on market next offseason. Anyways, everyday catcher will be priority #1 in the offseason. (It should be now) The minor league system is severely lacking at the catcher position. Today's trade made this even more of a priority
     
    #191 raining threes, Jul 23, 2015
  12. The Beard

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    Yea I agree, and i'm sure we are looking into what options are available right now also. It's obviously not ideal to change catchers during the season, but if the right deal is there to be made i'm sure Jeff would make it.
     
    #192 The Beard, Jul 23, 2015
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    Castro is arb eligible after this offseason. His rights should be renounced.
     
    #193 raining threes, Jul 23, 2015
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;We had identified Kazmir as a guy we wanted.&quot; - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a> GM <a href="https://twitter.com/jluhnow">@jluhnow</a> on today's acquisition of LHP Scott Kazmir. <a href="http://t.co/1aDVsYN8P5">pic.twitter.com/1aDVsYN8P5</a></p>&mdash; Houston Astros (@astros) <a href="https://twitter.com/astros/status/624338324472266752">July 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Luhnow on possibly getting another starter: &quot;I'm not ruling it out.&quot;</p>&mdash; Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chandler_Rome/status/624339797084106752">July 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    Kuechel - Kazmir - Ross - McCullers - Velazquez

    Make it happen..............
     
    #195 Nook, Jul 23, 2015
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    i think substantial upgrade in the rotation would be the only reason to acquire another starter.

    and i think if they went that route, they'd do so betting on themselves being able to re-sign at least one of kaz or the other (price).
     
    #196 cardpire, Jul 23, 2015
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    McHugh as our 4th starter.

    Move Velazquez and McCullers as the tandem 5th starter
     
    #197 tmacfor35, Jul 23, 2015
  18. The Beard

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    Yea McHugh has been very good for a while now. 7 straight starts of 3 earned or less. 4 of last 6 starts 2 earned or less. Safe to say we aren't looking to replace McHugh
     
    #198 The Beard, Jul 23, 2015
  19. J.R.

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    Luhnow:

    We prioritized the guys we thought who would help. He was right at the top of the list.

    Asked 2 weeks ago, they weren't sure they would move him. I kept calling/texting them. Got to a deal this morning.

    Why Kazmir?

    He knows our division, this league, left handed, one of the best pitchers in the AL this year. Homecoming. We pursued 2 years ago and followed him and felt he would be a good fit all along.

    Any concern with home/road splits?

    No, this year is aberration. ... He got incredible stuff. He's one of the top LH in the AL, if not the whole game.

    Another one in the future?

    We'll keep looking. We got 7 or 8 days. I feel responsible to do everything I can. There may be another move coming.

    Another rotation move or positional?

    We'll assess each guy out there. Not ruling anything out. We like the team we have. I'll continue to look.
     
    #199 J.R., Jul 23, 2015
  20. Uprising

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    :confused: So...buyers...or sellers market?

    Love the trade. Too bad about Nottingham, but it's just too awesome to see the Stros as buyers this season....Feels Good man....Feels really good....
     
    #200 Uprising, Jul 23, 2015
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