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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Astrodome, Aug 13, 2020.

  1. jcee15

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    No such luck.
     
  2. Astrodome

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    Spare me the virtue signals. I understand why they commit more crime. That doesnt change the fact that it happens. Committing more and more crime, as what is happening in many cities, is not likely a solution to the problem. Who is to blame? When does it stop? More single parent homes is not going to help, black or white.
    What makes you draw a conclusion like that? It is demonstrably false.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Why do they commit more crime? And why do you never discuss the solutions and only emphasize on the chastising part? Don't be coy.
     
  4. Astrodome

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    Tell me how these numbers help your argument.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Again with you listing symptoms and pretending they are root problems. Single parent homes are a symptom.

    I along with many other posters here have discussed all the ways that can help alleviate these issues such as disconnecting k-12 funding from local property taxes, providing universal high quality early childhood education centers like in European countries. Provide free healthcare so on and so forth to alleviate the burdens children face in poverty that can lead them to a life of crime.

    But you never get involved in those conversations.
     
  6. jcee15

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    Who’s gonna pay for that chief? These are bullshit proposals provided in bad faith used to pretend that you actually want to have a conversation.
     
  7. DVauthrin

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    I wasn’t trying to make an argument in this case, other than if you are going to cite statistics, do so correctly.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    Tax payers out of a pragmatic desire to not spend more in the future.
     
  9. jcee15

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    You’re gonna convince this population to delay gratification now for a better, fictional future?
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    Citizens in Canada, European nations, Hong Kong, Japan, etc made that decision.
     
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    Socioeconomics explains all of it. Crime rates in poor white areas are the same as poor black areas. Crime rates in middle class black neighborhoods are the same as in middle class white neighborhoods.

    Ignorance is not your friend.
     
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  12. jcee15

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    Gtfoh.
    To suggest that people will give up their labor for people who won’t carry on their genetic legacy is laughable.
     
  13. jcee15

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    Not violent crime rates.
     
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    lol. @Astrodome this is the kind of supporters your thread is attracting.
     
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    That's not what the data says. There are 171,493,180 white people, according to that document. There were 547,948 violent incidents reported where the offender was alleged to be black. That is 0.32%. There are 33,132,390 black people, and 59,778 violent incidents reported where the offender was alleged to be white. That is 0.18%.

    So, the chances of a white person being violently victimized by a black person is 1.8x higher than the chances of a black person being violently victimized by a white person. Not 10x. And this assumes that crimes against white people and crimes against black people are reported at the same rates and with the same accuracy, but nevertheless that disparity is not so much of a surprise. If you have two different populations with different levels of access to wealth, schooling, and parenting, this will happen. Solutions should be focused on addressing those gaps.
     
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    ^Hey master race learn how to use the quote function.
     
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    Why do you keep asking him or anybody this question when you know they don't have a legitimate answer or are not going to debate honestly?

    I can't believe this thread is this long, astrodome has won again with a race baiting thread.

    It's not the 1st time you have went back and forth with him on this same topic, stop providing him and others oxygen.

    Rant/off.
     
  19. jcee15

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    Where’d u get 171 and 33 million?
     
  20. durvasa

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    It's Table 12 in the document you linked.
     
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