Nice! Overall I think yes his hands need work but that's something that will get better over time, the thing that is hard to get better at is the ability to naturally gain separation which he has. He just needs to hit practice hard and I think we got ourselves a football player.
Clowney is too damn strong to not make an impact in the NFL. Forget the game........ We really have a great WR squad. Fuller, D Hop n Miller are super legit to make big plays at any given moment. Brock will learn. He is whatever to me but if he keeps it going, I don't care.
Don't see Shorts losing out to Mumphery, Wendall, or Lenz just because he's the vet of the group. I read that Brock called him Mr. Reliable earlier this week and he's supposedly having a good camp. Also if we have to cut a rb I'd rather it be Blue although I know it won't happen. Haven't missed him one bit. I'd personally roll with Miller, Hilliard, Grimes, and Hunt solely for ST. Ervin to practice squad or IR
I'm not trying to take anything away from Clowney or saying he wouldn't have gotten past the guy anyway, but that guy's teammate helped take him down on that play (trip over his leg). That dude is something like 6'7" and 320 lbs. No way he should damn near do a backflip. lol.
One thing evident in seeing all Mariota's throws and Osweiler's throws, Osweiler had a little LESS time in pocket to make throws even in the first short drive. Then evident of course is Mariota's running ability apart from Os's, but Mariota made runs off good coverage more than he ran from pressure. Though Mariota had more time and he did throw DAMN well, he did toss a bad interception with no pressure on him. I thought Os did pretty well considering. Some kinks to work out for sure, but more reps and better O-line protection and he'll get sharper maybe not to Luck and Mariota's level but enough to win games.
Covington is going to have a breakout season, the guy is good. And I'm really excited about Braxton Miller. Miller looks like he's ready to contribute this season.
Haven't been able to watch either PS game, but Brock's stat line has looked super pedestrian or worse. Is that a combination of no Hop, vanilla PS play-calling, and learning curve? Or do his mechanics/throws look off? How has his decision making been? Fitzy, Hoyer, & Mallett were all awful decision makers that, especially Hoyer, had difficult reading defenses - I'm really just hoping for improvement in that category.
Xsf didn't play well. Osweiler doesn't look special but hopefully he can be solid. I've yet to be impressed by anything I've seen from him and I'm still troubled that the praise for him in camp has been almost exclusively about leadership or looking the part. Saw issues with strong that have been in the scouting report for years about his catching ability on contested balls not being what it should be. Stephen Anderson is legit. So glad they got this guy. I wanted them to draft him can't believe he was available on the street. Special teams return blocking doesn't look good so far.
I just watched the game as I dvr'd it and after reading many posts here on the garm before I watched it was thinking it was gonna be really bad but it was actually good. How did Brock do bad for all the Osweeiler haters? He looked solid to me and I remember all the crying when Fuller was drafted and now he looks to be the # 2 receiver and having a nice pre-season. Clowney had a nice game and Braxton Miller was a steal. I was very happy overall with this game !!!!!
Man I tell you the experts are indeed in full form. Seriously complaining about catches that are made with the body. Fuller had a damn good game and we're complaining that he made most of them with his body. Bwhahaha too funny. Dude made the catch and that should be all that matters.
If you take out that 4th down INT in the endzone (we'd normally kick a FG...the ball was forced to Fuller...and Hop would normally be the recipient), Brock would have had almost a 105 rating, which would look much better on the stat sheet. Plus, Fuller should have come down with the TD the play before in the endzone, which could have boosted Brock's rating to a 129. Therefore, lots of variables there, outside of Brock's control, that greatly affect the "stat line". In any case, outside of that one INT which was more of a practice play, Brock played a very solid game, imo. On a separate note, some quick thoughts I had... Our OLine needs to get healthy (we had 4 starters missing)...we wont survive with more than 2 of these guys playing on a regular basis. Covington is a damn good player. Im very impressed with him and he will be able to cause some major damage, specially if he's playing alongside a healthy Watt/Clowney. Fuller and Braxton will have big roles on this offense. Im very incredibly impressed with Braxton though...I think he will be a huge weapon for us this season. A month ago, I thought his time would be next year, but I think it's pretty clear he needs to be on the field. Ervin hasnt lived up to my personal expectations of him. I really want to give this guy more chances, but Im afraid he's going to fall short of any contribution this year. Hunt is basically doing what I wanted Ervin to do. The nod goes to Hunt here. Speaking on RBs...I really dont care about Blue in the slightest. Stephen Anderson is just a great route runner, and too quick for LBs in coverage. He will find space to allow the QB to get it in there to him...plus, he has the hands to make up for inaccurate throws. Just a very solid addition to a unit that needed help. Our offense has made some huge strides...addition of Lamar, Fuller, Braxton, Anderson...I think we finally have an offense that isnt so overshadowed by the defense. We have a ton of talent and Im sure OB is itching for the regular season to start so that he can open up his playbook the way he's always imagined.
Texans-Saints rewind: Five up, five down By Aaron Wilson Will Fuller--The Texans' first-round draft pick displayed speed, sound hands and precise route-running, catching a touchdown pass and finishing with four catches for 73 yards and one touchdown. Fuller also went across the middle for a 25-yard reception. He's beginning to emerge as a potentially impactful complementary presence to Pro Bowl wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins. Jadeveon Clowney--The frequently injured former top overall pick had a healthy, productive football game as he returned from a sore knee. Clowney sacked Saints Pro Bowl quarterback Drew Brees for a loss of 14 yards. Clowney was extremely competitive and quick off the football while being held almost every play. He was physical as an edge-setter against the run. Where Clowney needs a lot of improvement is developing his pass-rushing repertoire and geting to a point where he has some effective counter moves when his initial charge is halted. Clowney remains a work in progress, but this was a positive step forward. Brock Osweiler--Following a shaky debut a week ago, the Texans' $72 million man demonstrated a lot more command and timing against the Saints. He completed 12 of 19 passes for 124 yards and one touchdown on a perfect fade pass to Will Fuller. He was intercepted on another fade intended for Fuller, rendering this a positive performance that was marred by the turnover. Overall, though, this was an encouraging game for Osweiler. Christian Covington--For the second consecutive game, the former Rice standout was a disruptive force at the line of scrimmage. One week after forcing a fumble that was returned for a touchdown, Covington had a sack, three tackles and two for losses. Covington is doing everything possible to win a starting job at defensive end as he competes with Devon Still for the right to start opposite J.J. Watt when the three-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year returns from back surgery. Middle linebacker Brian Cushing and cornerback Johnathan Joseph hadn't played much preseason football in the past, but appear to benefiting from an increased workload this year. Cushing looks to have regained his old Pro Bowl form, recording six tackles, including four solos. Joseph intercepted a pass after not playing in any preseason games a year ago. Tony Bergstrom--The former Oakland Raiders offensive lineman had a shoddy game in relief of starting right guard Jeff Allen, who was excused from the game due to a death in his family. Bergstrom was replaced quickly by Oday Aboushi at right guard after committing a holding penalty where he tackled a Saints defender. Bergstrom is not off to a good start. Tyler Ervin--The rookie return specialist improved as far as ball security this week, but still needs to make better decisions and be more explosive in the open field. He returned three punts for nine yards with one fair catch. He had one kickoff return for 14 yards. Tom Savage--The backup quarterback committed a crucial error when he didn't throw the football forward while attempting to throw it at the feet of wide receiver Cecil Shorts to kill the play. Instead, it was ruled a backward pass, sack and fumble that was recovered by the Saints and led to a field goal. Savage threw two touchdown passes a week ago and has been declared the backup by coach Bill O'Brien. This wasn't a sterling outing by him, though. Running game--The Texans didn't run the football well, struggling to generate man yards. Starting running back Lamar MIller was held to 16 yards on six carries and backup Kenny Hilliard managed just 11 yards on seven carries as Akeem Hunt was the leading rusher with 20 yards on six carries. The Texans finished with just 59 rushing yards on 24 carries, an average of 2.5 yards per run. The Texans committed some costly penalties, getting flagged seven times for 73 yards.
I wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I wasn't complaining about his production. I was just saying ee wont be able to go to him on fades until he can high point the ball.
You're right about that...Sorry, wasnt directed towards you. Mostly focused on the other chatter...Just saying that because he catches a TD pass with his body is no reason to criticize his receiving ability. At the end of the game, out of his 6 catches, I dont care that 6 of them were caught with his body. He should do things the way he has always done them, because it works for him (and he's been successful). And he can improve on little things here and there as time goes on...the kid is just starting his career and he seems like the kind of person that is committed to improvement.
Absolutely. If he's getting open, I don't care how he catches the ball, as long as he catches it. To think otherwise is asinine.
Is Clowney overdue for a breakout season in Houston? He offered promising signs in a dominant performance versus the New Orleans Saints’ overwhelmed offensive tackles Saturday night. Reminiscent of a rabid Seattle Seahawks squad in the preseason of 2013, the Texans’ defense was flying to the ball in a summertime home game. Clowney was the ringleader, steamrolling helpless tackles Zach Strief and Andrus Peat en route to Drew Brees, who was tossed like a dog with a chew toy. Clowney’s bull rush was simply too powerful for the twin 6-foot-7, 320-pound behemoths in an obvious mismatch. Still in the game late in the third quarter, he threw reserve left tackle Tony Hills like a rag doll to hit tailback Daniel Lasco four yards deep in the backfield. The top overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft led a comprehensive stifling of New Orleans’ first-team offense, as Brees managed just 3.6 yards per attempt to go with Mark Ingram’s 1.57 yards per carry. If a freakishly talented Clowney carries this powerhouse form into the regular season as a complement to the unblockable J.J. Watt, Houston’s defense is going to be nightmare fuel for opponents http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000688267/article/what-we-learned-jadeveon-clowney-dominates
