Ryan Anderson needs to go and Harden needs to start recruiting

And Gasol. Your correct, I can't argue that. I just don't see it working for Rockets. We've had James since 2012, the calvary isn't coming here to help.

 

You'll feel better if you don't get your hopes up this offseason.

Harden isn't going to recruit anyone significant. Well be lucky if we get courtesy meetings.

 

Harden needs to recruit Jimmy Butler HARD

 

Rockets need to do what the Texans did...offer Anderson/2nd rd pick to team to take his contract off our books or Anderson/2nd rd pick for an upgrade if possible.

 

Pretty much how i feel...i think we will be lucky if we can sign a guy like Gallo or Holiday, everything more of that would be a surprise.

 

If Ryan's contract is deemed "not worthy" in NO WAY would Milsap be worth a "max"

He hasn't done **** in the past 2 seasons that would make me believe he'd push us towards unseating GS or deserving of that kind of contract!!

 

There are plenty of options in both trade or free agency.

To be clear, the general point I'm making is this: I recognize the value in having a true stretch four, I just don't want to pay such a severely limited player $20M/year. Here are some examples of players that could fill the Anderson role and not cost us $20M....

Free agency: 2Pat, Mirotic, Ilyasova, Tolliver, James Johnson

Trade: Marcus Morris, Markieff Morris, Jared Dudley, Marvin Williams, Channing Frye, Teletovic, McDermott, Covington

These are just some names that come to mind. I purposefully didn't include the Millsap, Ibaka, Blake and Gallo types since they will get paid that figure or more. I also left off potential wild card trade targets (i.e. Brook Lopez, Melo, Love) that I would rather pay $20M than Anderson.

Also, I recognize that Anderson is a better overall player than some of the names I listed. That's not the point I'm making. The point is: we can get Anderson level production -AND- hopefully upgrade the roster at the same time. I mention the latter since Anderson's contract would likely be involved to facilitate any trades. I'm in favor of having a bold offseason. We have a top 3 player. I don't want to waste Harden's prime by, in part, investing so much money in a three point specialist. We're never going to be on GS's level if we're forking out second best player money to a guy like Anderson. Do something useful with his contract. Be bold. Make a risky trade (i.e. Lopez or Melo) and find someone cheaper to launch three pointers and play no defense.

 

Hayward didn't make an All-NBA team so isn't eligible for a super max deal. Which makes getting him a bit easier.

 

super max or not, his max is still about 30 million to start and hes without a doubt signing a max contract somewhere

 

The Rockets made it to the WCF, played GSW close in two games in GS, took one at home, and high a better regular season... with PFs of DMo, Josh Smith, and Terrence Jones.

All three of those guys are either out of the league or BARELY in it. And it's not like it's been a decade... that was just 2 years ago.

Does Ryno stretch the offense and help make it so deadly?? Sure. But who cares. He tries but by virtue of being horribly defensively and rebounding, it contributes to a defensive team that is horrible. And he was horrible, god awful disgustingly bad in the playoffs. And, for whatever reason, the guy is HORRIBLE on his home court - which isn't just interesting, but a huge f'ing problem when you are having good regular seasons purposefully for home court advantage in at least one round, and when you need to protect your home court as much as possible deeper in the playoffs.

the BIG PROBLEM: we've committed to MDA. It doesn't seem like his teams work without some kind of "different" PF... that being either a hybrid 3/4 ala Marion (or what Trevor provided at times), or a stretch 4. It's a pretty big catch-22.

And another reason why when people say "the year was successful, who would have predicted 3rd best record in the league, yada, yada" I am not moved. It successfully highlighted the teams limitations.

I think Ibaka and Millsap would be better options than Ryno in that they similarly have some range, and they are both better rebounders and defenders. They wouldn't be HUGE upgrades. Blake would be the best upgrade at PF, but is completely unlikely to happen.

 

his max still starts at 30 mil/yr tho...with the super max it would've started at 35 mil/yr

 

We should dump Anderson and pick up a tier 2 and tier 3 level player. No point in paying a barely tier 2 level player(if that) top dollar to miss 3s when that's the only reason he's even here. Jamychal Green can be had from the Grizzlies for 16 and Patty Mills will surely take 16. We can then dump Lou Will which will make space for a backup big(Willie Reed/Dedmon) and also resign Nene. No, Green isn't a better shooter but he can hit open 3s when left open. And guess what? When Green isn't hitting he can still contribute by playing good defense, rebounding, and boxing out; all the things Anderson doesn't do but for a fraction of the price. He's also a WAY better finisher inside compared to Anderson.

 

I'm confused. We want to get rid of Anderson because he disappeared in the playoffs, right? Well, have you watched Lowry in the playoffs? And Millsap is about to get PAID, likely for the last time in his career, so I doubt he'd take a paycut to play in Houston. The only teams players might be willing to take paycuts to play for (other than the Finals teams) are the Spurs and Celtics (i.e. the Conference Finals teams).

 

Wiltjer is a better shooter and player than Anderson.

 

To answer OP, i can't see why would we need Lowry here, we have enough good guards as it is, we could use players Like Millsap/George/Buttler/Hayward in that order, or anyone that can play and defend multiple positions.

 

No he isn't. He is slow as molasses.

 

You're right, we don't need Lowry. Perhaps a 3 team trade involving Lou to the Bulls, Capela to the Magic, Mario Hezonja to the Bulls, and Harrell/ Dekker in some combination to either of these teams, along with picks, might give us a chance to get Jimmy Butler. Even that, will be hard to pull off.

 

Wiltjer is a better player and shooter than Anderson. And he's faster than Anderson too.

 

So the Rockets can exchange Anderson and Dekker for Lowry and Millsap in the marketplace?

You are mind-numbingly ignorant trailer-trash, Cletus.

 

Sure. But will Wiltjer be an overall better player? Orlando and earlier NO Anderson a tad better. He was essentially a 16, 17 ppg guy who could shoot 40% beyond the arc.

Almost a steal per game, 6-7 boards. He was a Top 2 Non Allstar Stretch 4. Got his 18 millions from that time.