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Russia and China....

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Salvy, Feb 4, 2022.

  1. Salvy

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    Are allies now, great.... Just what we needed...

     
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    And our enemies are Canadian truckers and girl swimmers who are really girls
     
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    and Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is the enemy.
     
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    And Dave chappelle
     
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  5. Salvy

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    And dangerous grandmas who entered Capitol Hill on Jan 6....
     
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    They always were...it's not exactly breaking news. Birds of a feather flock together...
     
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    Why does everyone assume that Russia and China are friends?


    Keep this history in mind,

    In 1969, the Soviet Union and China fought a border skirmish that both sides feared could lead to nuclear war. Moscow asked foreign governments how they would respond to a preemptive strike against China, and in October 1969, Mao Zedong was so worried about a Soviet nuclear attack that he temporarily fled Beijing. This fear helped impel Mao to reach out to the Americans, and, in the 1970s and 1980s, the two sides actively worked together against the Soviets.​

    Now, some fifty years later, Moscow has more to fear from Beijing than Washington.

    Like the Philippines, India and Bhutan, Russia is vulnerable to Chinese territorial encroachment. China has supplanted Russia as the most influential nation in Central Asia — Moscow’s traditional geopolitical backyard — and has uncomfortably large influence over Russia’s economy. Despite the countless irritants in the U.S.-Russia relationship, all this means that there is now space to enlist Moscow as a silent but meaningful partner in the global campaign to curb the pernicious aspects of the Chinese Communist Party’s international influence.

    Chinese frustrations with Russia — most Chinese alive today came of age in an era of frosty relations between the two nations, from the Sino-Soviet split in the mid-1950s to the 2001 Sino-Russian strategic and economic treaty — could easily push China’s foreign policy to be more aggressive toward its northern neighbor.

    These tensions are becoming especially visible in Central Asia, an area that has long been within Moscow’s sphere of influence — and now finds itself more firmly within China’s. Xi first announced his vision for the global strategy now called the Belt and Road Initiative in Kazakhstan in September 2013, an important symbol of Beijing’s designs to further enmesh the region in Chinese trading patterns. Russia used to be the region’s largest trading partner; it’s now China. Russia’s largest overseas military base is in Tajikistan; China opened a (secret) military base there several years ago.

    Russia is inescapably the junior partner in the relationship. China is Russia’s largest trading partner, while Russia isn’t even in China’s top 10. Moscow’s greatest card in the relationship is its defense technology. But even there the Kremlin is running up against the same kind of predatory mercantilism that countless firms across the world have faced. “China alone,” the chief of intellectual property projects at Russian state-owned defense conglomerate Rostec said in December 2019, “has copied aircraft engines, Sukhoi planes, deck jets, air defense systems, portable air defense missiles, and analogs of the Pantsir medium-range surface-to-air systems.”
     
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    lol you sound less intelligent with each post…
     
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    Yeah, I did not answer your first post because it was stupid AF..... No, these two hate each other.. Despite what you want to spew on the subject, it is news.... These two have similar situations with Taiwan and Ukraine and now they are basically putting themselves in a position where western involvement will pretty much lead to conflict. Sorry you don't understand what actually happened today between these two, but don't make unintelligent comments to try and start a pointless argument out of your ignorance...
     
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    I see why you don't post here often...you sound like a dumbass and my first inclination was correct. The Chinese and Russians have no choice but to ally with each other. Sanctions have all but crippled Russia's economy and China is their way around it. Xi and Putin are tied at the hip because they must cooperate and it's in each of their best interests to do so. The US is slowly decoupling from the CCP and will continue to, so their alliance makes sense to anyone with functioning cells in their brain.

    Now kindly **** off...
     
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    An enemy of the enemy is a friend?
     
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    Russia is against US lead diplomatic boycott of the game. They also have some gas to sell and China is a willing buyer.
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Russia and China fear mongering is what keeps us slaves to a $800 billion a year MIC.

    Congrats. You’ve played yourselves. Raytheon and Lockheed shareholders thank you.
     
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    This is very much an alliance of convenience. As others have noted there are many areas of disagreement and have been conflicts between the two. The PRC Belt and Road is more of a threat to Russian Hegemony in Central Asia than it is to the US. Also the economic weakness of Russia means that like other countries the PRC can exploit them also.

    Both countries see themselves allied against what they see as attempts by the West to constrain them and criticize them. As such it is in their mutual interest to present a united front.
     
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    Thanks for nothing Brandon. Whispering creepily into the mics with all of your lies will not change the facts that because of your weakness and clueless foreign policies, you have created this 2 headed Orthrus.
     
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    But what if we send trans swimmers to the Olympics
    We will beat their drugged up women swimmers

    America
     
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  20. Salvy

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    We have the best trans swimmer program in the world... As of now, China and Russia combined could not beat us at anything....
     
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