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Rondo may not be the perfect fit, but he's probably the best fit.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cmutt, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. OremLK

    OremLK Member

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    Naw Rondo would be a bad fit

    Would rather buy low to bring Dragic back
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Rondo > Dragic

    Dragic needs to shoot a lot to be effective.

    Hes not the all around player that Rondo is. In fact, is Dragic elite at any one thing? Rondo is elite in everything except scoring.

    Would Rondo let Eric Bledsoe and Isaiah Thomas take minutes from him? C'mon man.
     
  3. Liberon

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    Rondo and Olynk package together would be nice.
     
  4. ROXTXIA

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    And expensive?

    But maaaan, we do need to improve at the 4/(backup) 5.
     
  5. OremLK

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    lol at Rondo being more of an all-around player than Dragic... because scoring doesn't matter in basketball, right? Gimme a break.

    Dragic isn't bad at any one aspect of the game. He's a solid defender, 3P shooter, driving to the point, passing, steals, etc.

    You've got it totally reversed... Rondo is the one who's a specialist. He specializes in defense and passing. He's terrible at everything involving putting the ball in the basket, which is a little bit important in BASKETBALL.
     
  6. wekko368

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    So far this season, he's played 8 games and attempted only 13 3-pointers. It's too soon to be calling him a reliable 3 pt shooter.

    Look at it this way...he's shooting 30% from the ft line so far this season. Is it fair to call him one of the worst ft shooters in NBA history?
     
  7. SuperKev

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    Duh... You answered your own question. Rondo hasn't been 100% in... forever. He is among the most injury plagued players in the NBA. If you could get Lebron James but he could only play say 35 games with the rest of the games either severely injured or out entirely would you do it? ...and Rondo is no Lebron James.
     
  8. peter2012

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    He needs ball to thrive. Harden also need ball to get foul call. Harden is an average SG without ball.

     
  9. chandlerbang21

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    This is a sad and true statement lol
     
  10. Zergling

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    Rondo doesn't seem like a Moreyball type of player since he sucks at threes and free throws. Backup C and PF are bigger issues than us than PG IMO because I'm high on Canaan.
     
  11. cmutt

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    With each game the case for a true point guard becomes even more apparent.

    Everything I've said about Harden not being able to handle point guard duties is being displayed in front of everyone's eyes.

    And let's not try to pass it off on players being new, inexperienced, and the team not well gel'd yet. That only accounts for some of the mistakes and errors.

    Beverly is not a capable point guard, it's simply not his game.

    Harden isn't a point guard either, he's a pure shooting guard with decent passing skills.

    Neither of these guys can run an offense, direct plays, direct the ball, and "quarterback" the game.

    To all of you guys who do like Rondo as a fit... hell, I won't even suggest him... BUT the Rockets DO NEED a competent point guard... and I don't care what name is on his jersey... so long as he has the requisite skills and tools of a decent point guard.

    I've been watching the Rockets and NBA basketball since I was a kid in 1985, and I consider myself a pretty good student of the game. I'm objective, fair, and just I call it as I see it.

    IMHO, this Rockets team, with this personnel, has no chance of making it out of the 1st round in the west. Hell, they may not even be able to make the playoffs.

    I really hope Morey wasn't kidding when he said that they still have another big move to make.
     
  12. redglare92

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    I agree with the above and acquiring someone like ROndo. We need someone to step in at the 1 to give us some flexibility on offense. The analytics approach works when we have a dominant big and sharpshooters on the floor but we're going to need someone who can help protect the ball and provide a creative spark with playmaking. Pretty much every contending team has a strong PG right now.
     
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    Just a little tidbit for you here. Rondo, Dragic, and Beverley all share the same agent, Bill Duffy.
     
  14. impressivegol

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    would much prefer Millsap if we are going to be putting up assets/money for a big addition
     
  15. IgotNext

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    Rondo or dragic..... nice wants, buts not needs.

    This team is hurting for a PF who can defend( think of all the west team with good 4 5 combos) and a decent backup center. Also, a coach who knows how to uh...........coach.
     
  16. CelticsFan

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    Rockets don't have enough assets that the Celtics would be interested in. We have a log jam at PF with young players we don't need Jones. Pap seems to be a nice player but not enough to really target for Rondo. A team will offer more for Rondo than the Rockets can, Rondo is almost averaging a triple double give the guy some credit
     
  17. Haymitch

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    This is probably right, as far as players go. But we can offer the Pelicans' first round pick, so that's something.

    The funny thing about Rockets fans who propose trading TJones/DMo is in one sentence they say "We need help at PF; our PFs aren't any good." And then in the next sentence they say "We'll use our PFs as the main piece of a trade to acquire a star player; our PFs are the best trade pieces we have!" It can't be both ways, guys.
     
  18. impressivegol

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    what i keep wondering is, would Morey give Millsap 4/60m? its gonna take something like that to land him.
     
  19. cmutt

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    I don't know for certain that Rondo is a viable option trade wise or not, I was just making the point that he is the type of PG that the Rockets sorely need. He may not be perfect, but IMO he could surely be a great help.

    As for your comment that Harden is "the best guard in the league with the ball"... sure... when he's being utilized as a SG, and starting from positions on the court where he can be most effective as a scorer 1st, passer and playmaker 2nd.

    The proof has been spilling out all over the place during the past few games and in previous years and playoff games. Anyone watching the games can clearly see what is happening to Harden when he's put in the PG/playmaker position.

    He gets the ball above the 3 point line, then:
    - he runs the clock down
    - he tries to run a pick and roll
    - he tries to break down and blow by his defender
    - he forces penetration and looks for a pass or shot

    In all the variations of this scenario it's getting harder and harder for him to succeed because defenses are aware and prepared for it already.

    And whats been happening more often than not lately is:
    - he's turning the ball over way too much, and in crucial times
    - he's struggling to get into the paint
    - he's bogging down and stagnating the offensive flow of the team
    - he's having to force up more, long contested jumpers

    And as a result of all that:
    - his shooting percentages are much lower than usual
    - his stamina and strength are affected, especially in crunch time
    - and most importantly, the team as a whole suffers from being way too predictable and inefficient on offense.

    All in all, saying that Harden is the best "guard" with the ball in his hands doesn't mean that he is best suited to play the point guard position.
     
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  20. ROXTXIA

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    Then Rondo should fit right in.

    "Man," says Rajon, "I'm awful at free throws."

    Tarik Black answers, "Big talker! I suck worser at free throws than you, Rajon!"

    "Oh yeah! Watch this!" THUD. THUD.

    Morey from his seat: "C***s***ing, m*****f***ing sonofabiscuit-eater!"

    McHale, slumped in defeat, half to himself: "Maybe I could pimp...."

    Unfortunately McHale is not. And he's inexplicably high on Garcia.
     

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