TURNOVERS - 3rd in the NBA with 16.8 per game 3 PTS ATTEMPTED - 1st in the NBA with 30.5 per game 3 PTS % MADE - 18th in the NBA with 34.6% per game DEFENSIVE REBOUNDS - 23rd in the NBA with 32.1 per game FT % MADE - 27th in the NBA with 71.2% per game What are in the stats you ask? Well it could be a lot or not much at all depending on your interpretation.... But I will let you be the judge of that... Too many turnovers...coupled with mediocre defensive rebounding. The most 3PT attempts per game of any team in the league...coupled with a below average shooting %... One of the worst FT % in the leaugue from front court players who can't make 50% of their free throws... To me the stats say a lot....
Its the system thats failing. Blame it on Murray If we take 10 threes and give them to Dwight as 10 post up shots, we probably wouldnt be in this mess
Hear this quite a lot, but not sure it's right. We don't really know the full implications of Moreyball, I don't think he's prohibiting the coach and team from running proper plays that free up playrs and improve ball movement. As a statistics guy he should know that a wide-open shot after a screen or backdoor cut is much more likely to go in than a guarded shot after no ball movement. Sure, he wants a lot of 3s and layups, but that doesn't mean we can't run a proper system to ensure good opportunities. Feels more like we don't have the right coaching stuff to implement these plays, McHale and Bickerstaff don't strike me as experienced coaches that know how to teach sets or draw them up. Only thing I can really criticize Morey for is the roster. He wants a 3pt heavy offense, so it never made sense to assemble a roster with no true shooter or to draft guys like Dekker, Harrel, etc. His roster decisions make absolutely no sense given his offensive philosophy.
We were second in the league (BY FAR) in TOs last year too. And also led the league in 3s. If you think you found a solution, you didn't. If you were to make it simple in one or two sentences, the PLAY HARDER and do it more consistently mantra is still the most accurate for tidy explanations.
GSW is 5th in TO in the league. TO doesn't mean much by itself. I think 3 seasons ago, the Rockets has a much higher win % when TO was over 15 or something close to that. When TO was low, they usually lose. It indicates that fast pace style of BB help win more with that Rockets team.
Turnovers in and of themselves are not the overriding problem. It would help if they were lower if we kept the same pace obviously. That would mean our turnover percentage would be lower. Defense and rebounding are the core of our problems. Turnovers are secondary to the defense and rebounding issues. Why? Here's a comparison of the correlation of rebounding and turnovers to wins and losses. Firstly rebounding, 1. When we collect a greater percentage of rebounds than the opponent our record is 11-5. Of those 5 losses, 3 losses were a direct result of the opponent significantly out shooting us from the field. Of those 3 losses two of those losses our opponents shot well above 50% (defense). Of these 3 losses, the turnover differential was basically insignificant. What makes it insignificant? Because while we turn the ball over 16.8 times a game, our opponents turn the ball over 16.4 times a game. In other words, our turnover differential on the season is minimal. Where turnovers become a much larger factor in wins and losses is when we don't get them back, when there is a differential against us. In the other two losses where we outrebounded the opponent the turnover differential was very significant. But to dig deeper on that differential, the turnover existed mainly because the opponent had artificially low turnovers than we normally force them into. That is a defensive issue. 2. When we collect a lower percentage of available rebounds than the opponent our record is 5-12. That speaks for itself. But let's dig deeper into the 5 wins and find out what happened. In two of those wins we won from the free throw line. We got to the FT line and knocked down a much greater amount of free throws than the opponent. That does show me aggression. But......we cannot bank on getting to the foul line more than the opponent. That factor is too affected by officiating. Of the other 3 wins, 2 were determined by turnover differential. We had significantly less turnovers than the opponent. (Defense.) And one game our opponents shot a terrible percentage from the field (recent Spurs win, either luck or extremely good defense.) ----------------------------------- Next, let's look at turnovers: 1. When we have a lower turnover percentage than our opponents our record is 6-7. Not much correlation there. Rebounding affects wins and losses much more and explain the record here. 2. When we have a higher turnover percentage than our opponents our record is 11-9. Both sides of the coin are slightly inverted but close enough to mirror our record. -------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------- It should be easy to see that rebounding and defense are much more important to our wins and losses than turnovers are. While it would most definitely help us to improve our TO% it's not going to help us win as much as us improving our rebounding and defense. And if our rebounding and defense improved significantly it would positively affect our TOV% and our efg%. While if our rebounding and defense is bad we are too often playing catch-up in crunch time which leads us right into taking more and more risk and forcing more offensive play which cranks up our turnovers. It all starts with the rebounding and defense.
One factor that pretty much EVERYONE fails to see is that when teams go to the "HACK A WHOEVER" strategy, their rebound numbers go way up. We miss and they rebound - and we don't get a shot up.... Our lack of being able to hit FTs is a glaring weakness on this team - and it hurts in so many areas like rebounding as well. DD
We might not have won it all but that does not mean the season was a failure. The problem this year is that the players did not adequately prepare for the season and the coaches did not adequately prepare this team in training camp. Add to it that our superstar guard decided to stop playing defense again and our superstar center has clearly mailed it in many games this season and that really tells you why the team is so bad. It doesn't help that we have a rookie coach that keeps playing random rotations playing players that should not even be playing. This year has left an awful taste in my mouth. I hope they turn it around but the sample size is quite large now and I am no longer holding my breath.
Happened 3 times last night Dada. With about 1 minute left in the first half Dwight missed the back end of two freebies. And twice early in the second half Dwight missed on And-1's. That was it. Dwight and Capela were more productive from the FT line than we were as a team from everywhere but the 3-point line. Even if they missed the back end of every pair those rebounds aren't the difference makers. Our problem is holding down the defensive glass. We are 28th in the league, just barely ahead of the Lakers and Bucks who both have had a much tougher schedule than we've had, in DRB%. We simply can't hold our opponent off the glass. Because they're penetrating us like a hot knife through butter and because they are bigger, stronger, longer, and more aggressive than us. None of those things change one bit if we hit or miss all of the back end of our free throws. They're issues coming from the other end of the court. And that is why JBB is talking about disrespecting the game. 115 points is more than enough points to win a game in the NBA.
I dont read this as an indictment of DM as much as the inability to run a proper gameplan by the coaches and players... DM built this team to run (ie Brewer, Thornton, Harrell, Ariza..) when that gets taken away because it takes over half of the shot clock til the ball even makes it to the top of the key... Watch the first half of the Atlanta game and tell me he didn't build a phenomenal team... Then watch the second half and see how it all come undone when no cohesive gameplan is followed... I dont know why everything seems to be all or nothing all the time... either we are just shooting 3balls and ignoring Howard... Or we are feeding the post and not taking advantage of open looks on the perimeter... Either we're running (often out of control...brewer) or meandering at a snails pace... it's all about balance and we dont have anybody who's dictating the necessary tempo to fit the ebs and flows of the game... which should be the job of the coach or the cornerstones...jus sayin..
it doesn't make morey look good when he tells everyone he's building a team to hit 3's and ft's, and then proceeds to build a team that can't hit either.
