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Rockets signing Gary Payton II to 3 year deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketpower2, Jun 23, 2016.

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Houston79Astro said: ↑

So everyone is down with a pg who shot 30% from college 3pt line and who is afraid to shoot if his guy goes under the screen?
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Just think back to all the layups that Bev missed this season.

This guy ain't having that problem!!

#41 DonKnock, Jun 23, 2016

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With all the rumblings of Beverley possibly being traded, this doesnt suprise me.

#42 IslandB.O.I., Jun 23, 2016
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DonKnock said: ↑

Just think back to all the layups that Bev missed this season.

This guy ain't having that problem!!
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I expect nothing out of our PG position. Dribble the ball up the court. Play some serviceable defense. Any shooting is bonus; any slashing is fine too. Harden is a ball pounder so play making is not that important.

#43 Noob Cake, Jun 23, 2016
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Followed him closely while he was a Beaver. Guys, we are lucky he didn't get drafted and absolutely blessed we got to sign him.

I rate our draft from a D- before this signing to an A+

GPII is the real deal.

#44 Asian Sensation, Jun 23, 2016
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3 year deal?

Wow. That's long term.

#45 aussie rocket, Jun 23, 2016
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Wiltjer too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hear Kyle Wiltjer to Houston. His shooting would've been nice to see on the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Twolves?src=hash">#Twolves</a> in summer league, etc.</p>— Darren Wolfson (@DWolfsonKSTP) <a href="https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/746201009622421505">June 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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#46 rocketpower2, Jun 23, 2016
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Better than Ty Lawson & Jason Terry & Pablo Prigioni?

NOWHERE TO GO BUT UP!

#47 J.R., Jun 23, 2016

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We better not cut him like we cut christian wood last year

#48 rockets13champs, Jun 23, 2016
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Just think 2016 Austin Rivers with small flashes of Westbrook.

#49 Asian Sensation, Jun 23, 2016
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I bet this kid has a mean post up game like his daddy.

#50 jimmyv281, Jun 23, 2016
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I think his defense will be comparable to Bev's. He has the potential to be a better defender.

I don't expect his offense to improve much. His shooting makes me sad.

Still like the pickup a lot. He is nearly 24 and should be capable of contributing this year.

#51 bobloblaw, Jun 23, 2016
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Did payton women cuck him behind his back?

His kid looks nothing like him and isnt even black smh

#52 rawbrah, Jun 23, 2016
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was 20 years ago that the Rockets tried to sign Gary Payton as a free agent. Today they get his son. Defensive, athletic PG prospect.</p>— ClutchFans (@clutchfans) <a href="https://twitter.com/clutchfans/status/746197783342780416">June 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">3. <a href="https://t.co/S1Ci1kw2Dx">https://t.co/S1Ci1kw2Dx</a></p>— Osweiler's intellect (@GlockOsweiler) <a href="https://twitter.com/GlockOsweiler/status/746199586251767809">June 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Payton's rebound ability (7.9 rebs per game) for a PG (6'3'') is gold. <a href="https://t.co/arkm4aFzxW">https://t.co/arkm4aFzxW</a></p>— ‼️ROCKETS‼️ (@geraldyu14) <a href="https://twitter.com/geraldyu14/status/746084401876873216">June 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Payton was the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year and his defensive ability on the perimeter would be welcome to a Rockets team that struggled in that category last year. He can guard ones or twos in the NBA and the Beavers relied on him to guard the other team’s best player.

On the offensive side of the ball is where Payton’s game needs to improve. He does not shoot the three ball at the rate a Mike D’Antoni offense needs. His shooting must improve and he needs to gain more confidence in his shot if he wants to become a better player in the league. If he works on the three, he could be very much like a bigger Patrick Beverley.

Beverley is a very easy comparison for Payton. Both players are tenacious and defensive-minded. The only thing Beverley has over Payton is a better three-point shooting game (although that wasn’t always the case). The explosiveness is there for Payton, and he will fight for every offensive board in the game. His effort will never be questioned. He has had to fight for everything and he has not been spoon-fed, even if his father is one of the greatest guards in NBA history.

Another weakness in Payton’s game is his ability to create plays. However, the Rockets would be a good fit for him, because Payton’s responsibilities will not be in the playmaking department. Harden has those duties covered. He has good NBA size for a guard and he will give any team energy. With second-round picks, effort, energy and NBA readiness matters more than first-round picks, where talent and body trumps all.

The best case scenario for Payton is he lands with a team that has a need for a point guard and could get decent playing time in the near future. The worst case scenario is that Payton ends up with the wrong team who drafts him because of his name. Payton is a raw prospect and has potential to be a good 3-and-D player in the league. However, he needs a year or two to develop his shot and he could be a solid player in the league. Hopefully the Rockets can draft him and send him down to the Valley where he will be forced to work on his three-point game. Then in a few years, when Beverley approaches his early thirties, Payton can be wheeled into the rotation.
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#53 zeeshan2, Jun 23, 2016

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If Bev can learn to shoot, so can GPII

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bobloblaw said: ↑

I think his defense will be comparable to Bev's. He has the potential to be a better defender.

I don't expect his offense to improve much. His shooting makes me sad.

Still like the pickup a lot. He is nearly 24 and should be capable of contributing this year.
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Right now he is better than Bev at everything except shooting. Defense, rebounding, handle, passing. ......He's better than Bev.

#55 basketballholic, Jun 23, 2016
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If Bev can learn to shoot, so can GPII
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Bev should've learned how to shoot a layup.

#56 Asian Sensation, Jun 23, 2016
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Houston79Astro said: ↑

So everyone is down with a pg who shot 30% from college 3pt line and who is afraid to shoot if his guy goes under the screen?
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I am down with signing a player to a 3 year team friendly contract.... Especially a guard that scores so well inside, is an excellent rebounder, criminally under rated defender and has improved every single year.

#57 Nook, Jun 23, 2016
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MOREY- GM OF THE YEAR

how does he keep doing it???? It's like getting a free draft pick

#58 BackdoorHarden, Jun 23, 2016

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Wiltjer too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hear Kyle Wiltjer to Houston. His shooting would've been nice to see on the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Twolves?src=hash">#Twolves</a> in summer league, etc.</p>— Darren Wolfson (@DWolfsonKSTP) <a href="https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/746201009622421505">June 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Wait you mean we got a shooter who can actually shoot?

#59 amaru, Jun 23, 2016
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Nick Johnson 2.0

Maybe he will hit a game winner like Nick!
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Exactly who he reminds me of. Nicks downfall is that he never developed a jumper, which was necessary for him to contribute on the offensive end.

Hope he puts in the time, because below average shooting next to harden won't work.

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