SERIOUSLY THIS TRADE IS ALMOST AS STUPID AS NOT DRAFTING REGGIE BUSH. COME ON CD? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING? YOU SMOKING SOME SHIET? LOOK AT THE PAST DRAFTS WE HAD. WE COULD HAVE HAD RICHARD JEFFERSON BUT WE TRADE HIM FOR EDDIE "THE IDIOT" GRIFFIN. WHAT A WASTE. EVEN BEFORE THAT WE HAD A YEAR WHERE WE COULD HAVE DRAFTED RASHARD LEWIS AND TROY MURPHY.. YET THE ROCKETS PICK TO DORKS WHO ARE NOT EVEN IN THE NBA ANYMORE. ITS SO BAD THAT I DONT EVEN REMEMBER THEIR NAMES. THE ONLY SURE FIRE THING HAS BEEN YAO MING, BUT VAN GUNDYS DUMB ASS GOT HIM INJURED BY PLAYING HIM HARD IN WORTHLESS GAMES AT THE END UP THE SEASON. WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM AT GETTING A BRANDON ROY IF WE DIDNT WIN THAT DENVER GAME LAST SEASON. EVEN THEN IT SEEMS LIKE GOD WAS LOOKING AFTER US AND GAVE US A GAY GIFT TO MAKE UP FOR THE STUPIDITY THAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF LAST SEASON. LOL. AND LOOK WHAT WE DO. SORRY THAT I HAVE TO VENT BUT IM JUST TIRED OF THE ROCKETS DUMB MOVES. I SERIOUSLY HOPE TMAC AND YAO CAN MAKE BATTIER POST UP MARION LIKE NUMBERS BECAUSE THATS BASICALLY WHO WE TRADED IN RUDY GAY. MAYBE WE HAVE SOME DEAL IN THE WORKS WHERE WE THROW AWAY NEXT SEASON ALSO SO WE CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO DRAFT ANOTHER MATT BULLARD CLONE AT THE NUMBER ONE PICK IN THE DRAFT.
I don't understand comparing this trade to the Eddie Griffin deal. Shane Battier is a proven commodity. He's just about the complete opposite of Eddie Griffin. Actually, Rudy Gay is more like Eddie Griffin than Shane Battier is.
i remember a lot of people like the eddie griffin trade. it was a good risk at the time. it dude was a stud after playing only 1 season at seton hall. it just didnt work out...
Is gay really that good? Last I heard he was an amazing dunker. But so was swift at #1 and swift's 5 years in nba were mediocre. Swift could = to GAY. But Battier doesn't = Gay. He showed improvements after 2-3 years of nba experience and he has good D and an inside game. I haven't seen Gay's other highlights but his shot isnt good and we want results now not later when gay grows up to his potential. But what if he becomes another swift? it's the nba, bball IQ is important; Battier got it but Gay might be another swift. Even if he becomes a star that would be in 2-3 years time when everyone's getting old
someone lock this or merge it into the other threads where rockets fans are voicing their displeasure. The fact is that the Rockets will still follow through with the trade whether fans want it or not. This team has Yao and TMac on its roster. People are still gonna come to games either way, Gay or no Gay. Get over it already. It's done with.
Watch some more film. Gay has a sweet jumper. That's what makes him so interesting. He's an athletic freak, but he has a very good jumper. It won't take him 2-3 years. He's better than Villanueva coming out of school and that guy had a great rookie year.
That's exactly the point! If Gay becomes a star when Yao and Tracy are getting older, then guess what? Gay becomes the franchise player that helps us transition to the next era of Rocket basketball. Gay was a great chance at not having to completely SUCK after Yao/TMac. In the meantime, he would at least be just as useful to us as Battier will be for those next 2-3 years.
I'm sorry Dan, but these kinds of threads are getting annoying. The Rockets' front office members are Rockets front office members for a reason. There's also a reason why you're not in their spots. This trade was made as a conservative effort to put a proven commodity on the team as a third option. We signed Stromile Swift to a decently-sized contract based on potential, and the team was not about to have the same type of player take up another chunk of money. Instead, they did a somewhat wise thing and ridded the team of both of these players. Battier played on a clogged team in Memphis. His stats there are not relective of what he will do next year. Your entire logic into this thread is based on two things: hindsight, and guesses. Neither of them are worth anything in our world, unfortunately. P.S. I think it's funny that you compare this move to us not drafting Bush because neither Bush, Mario Williams, nor Rudy Gay have played a game of pro ball.
They reloaded 3 times around Shaq, and they can do the same around Yao. Yao still has a solid 10 more years to go, Gay might be the next all-star, you never know. at the least, Swift + Gay for Battier is way too much...
Swift plus Battier seems like too much to everyone, too, but looks at it this way: Going at this rate, Stromile Swift is likely to never develop into anything other than what he is right now. That's definitely not starting material. Given how highly regarded Stromile was coming out of college (arguably, but probably more highly regarded than Gay), and how he has not developed, and couple that with the fact that Gay has the exact same questions. who's to say that Gay is definitely going to develop into this all-star that we're all thinking of? Who's to say that he'll become the next Stromlie? By doing this trade, we're potentially trading either: Stromile Swift (who we'll say never develops), and an all-star for a good third option that could very well get us over that playoff hump. OR Stromile Swift and a Stromile Swift clone for a good third option that could get us over that hump. Now, from all the reports I read leading up to the draft, the Rockets did their homework on Gay, and knowing CD, I'm confident in saying that they did a pretty good job on this homework. After seeing Stromile play and not pan out, they could see flashes of him in Gay, and they wanted no part of that. It's nearly impossible to tell, at this point, whether this will turn out to be true, though. But for right now, the Rockets are thinking they made the second deal I talked about.
Speaking of logic, if Battier is so talented why is he playing behind all the others on a clogged Memphis team?
He's not playing behind them, but rather with them. His play wasn't selfish enough for his own good on that team. The guy got 35 minutes a game, but only shot 7 shots a game. That tells a story....
Knowing CD? about his draft and trade choices? I have to laugh about this. The logical thing to say is that knowing CD, there is a 95% of chance that he screwed this up just like what he did for the past 10 years. Based on past trades and drafts, any logical person would have to say this is a screw-up unless proven otherwise. I don't want to give any benefits of doubts to this management unless proven otherwise.
That's because lots of people DO NOT know basketbal and are not PAID to do that job. On the EG trade and Swift/? signing, a MONKEY could do better than CD. By looking at CD's drafts and trades, it looks like he likes to put all eggs in one basket. He does not control risks well.
the all caps was a bit much, but at the same time there are a lot off pissed off rockets fans right now. 80% of the BBS voted it was a terrible move. that's a lot off angry people.
Actually Battier was the Monkey's decision. And dumping EG was also the Monkey's choice... EG is a better PF than anyone we have including the recently departed Stro.
This trade proves that the Rockets management is GOOD at wasting resources. No matter how you slice it, the fact is one MLE + No.8 pick end up in Shane Battier. A 10/5 player that didn't make a difference in losing 16 straight playoffs games. It's very feasible to get the same type of player with one MLE. As a result the No.8 pick is wasted in this process. It's a sure sign of management ineptitude. A good manager buys low and sells high, the Rockets management does the opposite by buying high and selling low.
