Rockets gauging league wide interest in Ryan Anderson

That will be true for most players. We are going to have to give Luc a little something which I suspect is the tp mle. Ariza will likely get roughly same 4 yr contract he has now to retire. It is flexible for trades and protects his future even though I am sure we want him to retire here if we can.

 

Just think if you were knicks and had 35 million tied up on Joahkim and Ernes Kanter.. lol

 

All of our ratings are dramatically lower than other teams because of pace. Ariza's name is ALWAYS included in trades. Almost all teams know his value and it is more to us than other teams. We play the crap out of him and he is durable as hell. MLE is over $8.8M. We will have the TP MLE at around $5.3 that we need to use on Luc. I suspect Ariza essentially gets the same or little less contract he has now to finish his career. A discount won't be that much. Fact remains, we need his Bird rights to have the leverage to do it or we lose him. He earns his money.

 

He'll get more than the MLE.

The BAE invokes the hard cap.

Forget about a vet min , that's a joke for a player of Ariza's caliber.

Use of his bird rights also lets them use that MLE option for someone else - like Luc.

I think Ariza will get 3 years at 9-11m and he'll still be a bargain contract at that price.

No technically they don't NEED his bird rights to keep him .... but the use if his bird rights sure makes everything else they want to accomplish this offseason easier.

 

Lakers locked up with Deng and Charlotte mainlining crack. Knicks are doing the same **** they did before and they will reap what they sow. Lakers and Knicks are just horribly run franchises and outside of being blessed with stars you see them for what they truly are no that no one is there to rescue them. Their strategy is always we are NY and LA. Yes come get taxed to hell when you are traveling and working most of the year or go to FL or TX and use that money you saved on taxes to buy a summer house there or just not both at all.

 

Hey it's possible .... if Lebron tells them its Houston or he opts opt and they get nothing.

What would you rather have ? EG on one of the leagues best contracts which you could move for a quality pick , a couple late first rounders , a year of Anderson and then flip his expiring for another first rounder or ..... Nothing? That's essentially 4 first round picks or .... nothing.

 

With LeBron's opt-in at $35.6 million, we need to have 75% of that in 2019 salaries to ship out, correct? To do so without sending out Ryno (making the trade infinitely more palatable to Cleveland), I calculate:

Gordon: $13.5 million
Tucker: $ 8.97 million
Nene: $ 3.65 million
Onuaku: $ 1.54 million
T Will: $ 1.54 million
Joe Chee:$ 1.37 million
Total: $ 30.57 million

Which is more than 75% of $35.6 million. Plus, if we need another 2019 salary, we can always trade Black tomorrow for a player under contract for next year.

 

Defensive rating has nothing to do with pace. It's a points per 100 possessions stat, not points per game. Ariza is currently 2nd to last on the Rockets in defensive rating among starters, only ahead of Ryan Anderson.

 

Because you don't notice the little nuances like when he is in position for a critical rebound or defensive deflection. He helped the Rox win that last game against gsw with his considerable contributions, especially in rebounding. At the end of the day what stretch 4 out there is as good as Anderson and fits with the Rockets system as well? Just about none. Tonight with him out there will be issues with the spacing making it more difficult for Harden and Paul.

 

Ariza is known around the league as a solid defender. He is always durable and has played a lot of minutes this year hurt. I am not at all surprised he went down a few games with how we tried to drive him in the ground. You can see his legs go over time with all of the minutes we give him and how it affects his 3s. There is nothing wrong with Ariza, he had to cover for our short rotation. Other teams are smart, they wanted him last year, now, and will want him next year. Is he going to wear down over time? Absolutely, which is why you need so many of those players and a deeper rotation to make the best use of those players. Numbers are important but so is the eye. This is the same Ariza but he is tired and now hurt. When he gets his legs back he will be fine.

 

Which is my point. He'll be 33 years old at the start of free agency and will have played 35 minutes per game over the last 10 seasons save one season in DC. He's almost entering Nene territory in terms of wear and tear, and it's starting to show.

 

At this point he's more valuable to the Rockets than he would be any other team due to chemistry, unless a rebuilding team wants to overpay him as a mentor i.e. Vince Carter, but I doubt he'd take a pay increase to leave a real contender in Houston at this point.

 

You still have a consistent quality player that someone will pay the MLE for next season that is better than what they can get otherwise at a position that has great scarcity around the NBA for the amount of need. He is valuable and going to be overvalued. The question is what is he worth to you vs replacement value. With opportunity cost you cannot easily replace Ariza's value through any of our other means without the opportunity cost of losing something else. He may get a 2/3 year with a team option year 4. People like Ariza have value to the team and the organization. They are players that have outperformed their contracts.

 

At this point you are just arguing to make it appear you are correct - This entire argument started with you wanting to clear cap space. (on page two of this thread).

That argument is just silly because you aren't going to create enough cap space to accomplish anything at all and have no means to replace those players you've renounced - they will start the offseason over or slightly under the cap - any acquisitions they make will have to be done with matching salaries and will likely be the first move made putting them over the cap if they aren't there already. At that point they'll resign their Bird / Matching players then lastly use the TP-MLE, most likely on Luc.

They could renounce everyone not named Harden and trade Anderson for $0 incoming salary would only have $68m in cap space .... that gets you CP3 and Lebron , now you have to build a team around them and have no bullets to fire other that the MLE and a bunch of minimum deals.

Operating over the cap as luckyman76 and I are suggesting allows you to keep the entire team intact aside from Anderson and one of EG/PJ for matching purposes and if its EG you sent out , you can take back another $6.5m in salary on top of Lebrons $35m. All while retaining Ariza , Capela , and CP3 via bird rights / matching as well as retain Luc via the MLE .... all while avoiding being hard capped. The only downside is you will most definitely be a taxpayer going forward.