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Rockets are out of the Melo sweepstakes

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by GreatOne1978, Sep 28, 2010.

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  1. NJRocket

    NJRocket Contributing Member

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    Im starting to become more and more convinced that Denver NEVER had any intentions of trading Melo....this is all a bunch of damage control in the fans eyes for when he leaves next summer for next to nothing....this way they can come out and say "well, im sure u read about all of the trades we worked on but Melo just refused to sign anywhere but NY....and we tried w Ny but we didnt feel like it was a good trade for us and our fans....blah blah blah..."
     
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    Actually, I heard the problem was... we offered the moon, but they wanted a space station.
     
  3. Evil Empire

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    Damn these "sources" and "leads"

    I believe no one
     
  4. lionaire

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    Tobias ftw
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    May be true, but there were reports (from ESPN and Yahoo) that Denver didn't like the Nets deal because it makes them take back $4.8 mil more than they sent out (combined salary of Kirilenko and Favors vs. Melo's salary), which means $9.6 mil in salary and taxes while not making them a better team.

    Maybe it is Melo holding things up after all, but the above reasoning is believable.
     
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    Nuggets would've added even more salary, more tax to their current situation, just for AK47 and Favors.
     
  7. aeolus13

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    Well played, sir.

    ;)
     
  8. worzel gummidge

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    Denver around $12M over the tax. Would be $16.8M over after NJ trade.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    If this guy knows what he's talking about, does that also mean we're not facilitating a deal for NJ? I lost interest in getting Melo a while back, but would be happy to get another asset to help clinch things for New Jersey and keep Melo off the Knicks. Maybe cut Utah out, pick up a player and send out Jeffries?
     
  10. amaru

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    We were never in it to begin with....not seriously anyway.

    Melo doesn't want to play here and neither does any other "big name" free agent.

    I've already said why numerous times so I won't beat the dead horse
     
  11. NJRocket

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    i understand what u guys are saying re: adding the $$$ for Denver.....but they supposedly had a wish list. Good young players, draft picks and cap relief.

    Im pretty sure (not 100%) that AK's contract expires after this season, no?

    They got offered 99.9% of what they asked for, if not 100% in my opinion
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    I am thinking they want cap relief right now (like somebody using a TPE to eat, say, JR Smith's salary), not just next year. With Melo expiring, if what they want is money off next year, they didn't have to make a trade.

    I am not sure if the NJ deal is 99.9%, though. Perhaps more like 66.67%.

    Young talent: Yes.
    Draft picks: Yes.
    Salary relief: No. Actually you pay almost $10 mil more in salaries + taxes.

    I might have still done it, but it's not my money, and apparently Stan Kroenke (who is paying the bills) perhaps don't agree with his son. I think ideally, they want another SF to take Melo's minutes and them competitive, but not one who makes quite as much money as AK does (thus the Iguodala talk).

    Right now, I see the Melo situation play out for a few more weeks at least. They might still trade him, but they'll try to see if hanging out with the team will improve his mood.
     
  13. BimaThug

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    What I (continue to) wonder is this: Why hasn't Troy Murphy been discussed more in trade talks?

    He's a large expiring contract (but smaller than AK47). He fills the temporary PF void created by the injuries to Kenyon Martin and Chris Andersen. He's actually a GOOD player, with range on his jumper.

    A simple Melo for Favors/Murphy/picks deal works just fine under the cap, and it saves the Nuggets ~$2-3M (as opposed to costing Denver ~$9-10M).

    I'm sure that New Jersey would like to hold onto Murphy. But at the expense of getting Carmelo Anthony?

    Just surprised this hasn't been talked about more in the media.
     
  14. HorneR

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    Most likely because Harris would net more in a multi-team trade. Murphy has been mentioned plenty in 1-on-1 trade scenarios as filler, but all the talk lately has been about larger trades.
     
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    The Rox were never in it. They called like every other team, but the rockets would have had to add so many players and picks,it wasnt going to happen.
     
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    unless they were....and someday might be again, of course!! ;)
     
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    Maybe the Nuggets just flat out don't like Murphy much? He has definite strengths, but also very obvious weaknesses.

    They aslo seem to prefer fining someone to plug the hole at SF left by Melo than any of their other holes.
     
  18. The_Yoyo

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    the nuggets did sign harrington in the off season so they do have a stretch 4
     
  19. TexAg713

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    Do you think we would be in a better position to trade for Carmelo if we still had Ariza?
     
  20. HorneR

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    Clearly this question wasn't directed at me, but in all honesty, I doubt it. Denver's looking for a piece to build around, and after last seasons showing Ariza can hardly be considered an intriguing, high potential prospect. We'd still be easily outbid by Favors + filler + GS pick.
     

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