Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

What nobody on the right, including the IG, do not seem to want to note is that in order to obtain a FISA warrant a Federal Judge (in this case a Republican appointed Judge), and the active AG (in this case Trump's appointed Deputy AG) have to review and sign off on the warrant.

Yes... if the FBI and CIA are screwing up, or cutting corners on the administrative tasks in the process, they should be called out for that. It's an incredibly serious process, and should be taken with the same care that I take when I send a proposal to a CEO, or present a formal plan to a Board.

However... in the end, the oversight of the process lies at the feet of the people in a position of authority who in the end sign their name on the dotted line. The fact that the IG report doesn't seem to even acknowledge that, and that Trump defenders just skip over that fact is pretty head scratching.

 

The judge and AG only have what data is given to them. In this case, data was purposely withheld from them so they couldn't make the proper decision. That's what the IG report is about. Read it.

 

Oh so you read it. Can you name some of these mistakes or content that was left explicitly where you believe it was done intentionally with political bias?

What are your thoughts also with FBI agents takes with this investigation that celebrated Trump's election victory since you were previously concerned with people who dislikes Trump being a part of the investigation?

Do you think those FBI agents should be fired or demoted like Lisa Page and Stroak?

 

Here is a nice summary for you from a lib source.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...t-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

They weren't fired for hating trump. But bad mouthing your boss to coworkers is a perfectly good reason to get fired.

 

That's not a nice summary. That is a author notorious for being so anti-Hillary that he has discredited the investigation into the Trump campaign from the very beginning as a Witch Hunt repeating many Trump talking points for the past 3 years from a motivation of trying to discredit Hillary's claim that it was Russia's fault that she lost because he has a personal axe to grind with her.

First, many of the Steele Dossier assertions have been corroborated. That alone tells me that the author here has an agenda hence why this is under "political commentary" rather than "news".

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective

So apparently the FBI has special soothsayer agents where they knew that Carter Page and Paul Manafort were going to join Trump's election campaign in 2015 in the year 2012 when they were being investigated by the FBI for possibly being recruited by Russian agents where in 2015, the FBI saw a giant red flag when individuals who were being investigated for multiple years of being possible Russian assets joined a presidential campaign.

Also, I asked if you read it. Apparently you haven't if you had to link to an opinion article to express your claims rather than just quoting to document yourself.

 

Still waiting on my MAGA hat...damn.

 

Your common sense has no place in Trump's America.

 

Yeah huge Trump guy. Also you misused the word 'notorious'

This article is a year old... And pointing out the public information being repeated in the dossier is not corroborating. The IG just told you

“corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.”

All steele did was surround the lies with stuff everyone already knows was true so idiots like you can go 'It's been corroborated'. This is how everyone lies.

Why would being cleared in an investigation (hes never been charged with anything) be justification for another investigation years later? It would be the opposite.

 

It sounds like you don't understand what a dossier actually is.

 

In what world was he "cleared". In fact im 2016 he was stall in contact with Russian officials who were subject to US sanctions such as, Igor Sechin, who is the president of the Russian state run oil company Rosneft.

It would be a gross oversight by the FBI if someone like Page joining a major US presidential campaign didn't set off giant red flags.

 

He was wiretapped for years and they charged him nothing. ever. that world.

GTFO

 

Not being charged doesn't mean "being cleared". You do know that right?

 

Carter Page was an "informant" from 2008 to 2013. How is that relevant to him having ties and contacts with Russian officials who were sanctioned well into 2016?

 

good point.

in order to be cleared you must be charged.......

because its why he has ties and contacts. It was part of his job.

good grief. You are trying to implicate somebody who was wiretapped for years and nothing was found. wtf is wrong with you.

 

So the FBI supervising agents that were key part of the process to obtain the FISA warrants who explicitly have shown support and jubilance over Trump winning, are they part of the deep state that started these investigations based in "false pretenses"?

 

Just you wait... Our hero Durham is going to put that mean ol' FBI and other Trump bullies in their place.

 

Why do keep on claiming "nothing was found"?

You understand that prosecutors and district attorneys pick up cases that are slam dunks that they are confident will clear the threshold of "beyond a reasonable doubt" and anything below that threshold either requires further investigation, admission from the individual being investigated or the case is dropped until the individual being investigated pops back up on their radar.

That's how our justice system works. There is an extremely high threshold to convict and if their confidence in the allegations is anything below 99%, they most likely won't pick up the case. Hence why plea deals are so common. Without them, prosectors hardly ever convict. 97% of federal cases are solved by plea bargains.

So merely not being prosecuted doesn't mean the individual is "cleared".or "nothing was found".

 

Sure if you want to show me they were responsible for the omissions from FISA warrants.

Was it put in the FISA warrants these hints of crimes you mention? what are they?

Your argument that the FBI are justified in investigating someone because they have been investigated before is pretty much the text book definition of harassment.

 

Carter Page was being surveilled because he was in contact with Russian executives who were under US sanctions while being a member of a prominent US presidential campaign. That is why he was being surveilled. The grounds for survailence was even justified by the multiple Trump supporting supervisors in the FBI.