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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

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  1. NewRoxFan

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    Financial crimes are also under investigation. And there reason? It would be too much of a distraction. Since we know, trump is very busy tweeting, playing golf, and having campaign events...

    DOJ lawyers seek to stop release of Trump financial records
    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ek-to-stop-release-of-trump-financial-records
     
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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    LOL. The lawsuit is about violating his constitutional duties. So they need to fix that: "... any discovery would necessarily be a distraction to the President's ongoing breach of his constitutional duties..."
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    McGahn story has unnerved trump, with a tweetrum that included claims of mccarthyism and mythical reporters...




     
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    rudy is such a horrible liar...

     
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    just because you, trump and his followers operate with this kind of petty, partisan mindset does not mean that the rest of the country does as well.
     
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  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Can someone who believes the "W1TCH HUNT!!" version of reality explain just one thing: what would account for Robert Mueller, decorated war veteran and lifelong law man and in no way a "liberal," suddenly perpetrating a "rigged witch hunt" for the first time in his long, noble career? Why would this, instead, just fit his lifelong pattern of him trying to get to the bottom of fishy activity?

    It's an honest question. If one believes the "W1TCH HUNT!!" narrative, I submit to you it's a clear violation of Occam's Razor.
     
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    This is just marketing from Trump. Beyond Trump's superficial Witch Hunt claim, there is no there there.

    Likewise ...

    Beyond Trump's claim that trade wars are easy, there is no there there.

    Beyond Trump's claim that a wall on the Us/Mexico border will stop illegal immigration, there is no there there.

    etc.
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    So weird that trump and his people have such a hard time with the concept of "truth"...

     
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    Truth Isn't Truth: The Rudy Giuliani Story
     
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    How do the 9/11 conspiracy nuts feel about that "Truth isn't truth!" line?
     
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    Word on the street is that if you play that tape backwards it says .... No collusion.
     
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    #3874 tallanvor, Aug 19, 2018
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    Lol, so... His explanation is republican Mueller will simply choose not to believe him. And others suggest truth is a process.

    So essentially no one can get a fair trial. Imagine being a black defendant with a white cop and prosecutor and judge. That defendant has no chance. Let's take down the entire law enforcement and judicial system, just because trump can't tell the truth.
     
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    Honest answer forthcoming; from an implication of guilt AND a "campaign directed at against people or group who hold different views" then this is most definitely a "WITCH HUNT" environment. Having said that, it's not really Mueller's fault. It's the media, certain parts of the left including left leadership, left voters, influential sports and entertainment folks, a few government law enforcement folks, etc... who've irresponsibly and aggressively promoted "guilt" before "due process" and the fact that since election day it can be seen as a "collective/campaign" approach. In fact, the NotMyPresident movement, Women'sMarch (after inauguration day), "TheResistance" movement, the #Twitstance movement (the rouge social media accounts from various government offices and groups), etc... all have a well funded, collective, and coordinated approach that make it a "campaign against" which automatically makes it "WITCH HUNT." Are you going to deny the size and scope of the "organized resistance" since the shocking election AND how the "other side" would feel/interrupt said campaign?

    I want to be clear because cf.net and it's posters have also changed since election day, I'm not claiming this "WITCH HUNT" is good or bad specifically only that it most definitely looks and feels like one. For the record, I think this "WITCH HUNT" is very complicated and has elements of both very good and very bad.
     
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    So what you are describing is not called a witch hunt, it is called a criminal investigation, whereby one is investigated after appearing to commit crimes. The enthusiasm of the investigation is not driven by partisanship or "collective/campaign" approach , but rather how convincing the appearance of crimes are, and the scale of destruction at which the malfeasor may cause before he is detained.

    A witch hunt, is when a woman is falsely persecuted for a mythical characteristic, to hide an ulterior motive. Examples of this would be the Benghazi and Email Servers for Hilary Clinton.
     
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    Actually you just prove my point even further. I specifically described how I was talking about everything outside of the investigation and you missed it completely. You show behavioral signs of a witch hunt mob member mentality by not being to see/interpret things (my post) clearly.

    I think TD has wrongly lumped the investigation with the "WITCH HUNT" but that's predictable. His fight or flight response is in overdrive due to the inundation from all sides (ala witch hunt) that from his pov it's all the same.
     
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    this warrants repeating !


    btw,
    • despite multiple attempts, the Clinton witch hunt found nothing.
    • the Muller investigation, so far, has led to 30+ prosecutions and 3 guilty pleads, w one serving his prison sentence
     
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