1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Ringer] Tilman is Cheap

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lnchan, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. HP3

    HP3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2018
    Messages:
    22,869
    Likes Received:
    32,140
    @Reeko :D
     
    Reeko likes this.
  2. meh

    meh Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    15,384
    Likes Received:
    2,256
    Never defended Fertitta, but people overrate Les way too much here because whenever the Rockets found themselves in the luxury tax zone while he was the owner, Morey would always make some deadline trades to get us under it.

    Jim Crane also never has and wont be going into the luxury tax either.

    Cal McNair has the Texans so far below the cap they just gave $7mil of it to Seattle and still have tons of space.

    Win or lose, no houston owner truly spend lots of money
     
  3. Mr. Space City

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Messages:
    31,044
    Likes Received:
    36,459
    It is what it is.

    When Harden's prime is over, it's gonna be rough until he sells the team.

    Eat more Landry's
     
    #23 Mr. Space City, Oct 21, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2019
  4. DreamShook

    DreamShook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    70,743
    Likes Received:
    114,739
    Kevin is a real one. Always has been.
     
    Nook, Richie_Rich, HP3 and 1 other person like this.
  5. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    45,844
    Likes Received:
    127,854
    HP3 likes this.
  6. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    45,844
    Likes Received:
    127,854
    Les definitely wasn’t trying to pay any LT

    Les also took the championship trophies back to the crib @tinman
     
    Jontro and tinman like this.
  7. c1utchfan925

    c1utchfan925 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,942
    Likes Received:
    323
    He's cheap.. but decided to give Chris Paul an extension way richer than his anticipated production (probably because he would otherwise lose value but still..) then instead of trading Chris Paul for assets he traded him for another expensive player.

    I wouldn't begin to start describing Tillman as cheap, he went out and bought a team for 2 billion dollars,which was roughly about 60% of his estimated net worth at the time.
     
    cheke64, HP3 and hakeem94 like this.
  8. DreamShook

    DreamShook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    70,743
    Likes Received:
    114,739
    Have you ever been tricked into defending something you have no business defending because the criticism is so concentrated, overblown and hateful? I'm not even sure people are defending Tilman or just annoyed by everyone going at him so relentlessly about his finances.

    Some people I have been caught defending: Ryan Anderson, Kim Kardashian.

    Tilman is fine until Morey gets fired or resigns. I don't think there is anyone in the league as in love with cap machinations as Morey. Tilman's cheapness would doom any other GM. Morey loves a challenge.
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,031
    Likes Received:
    40,632
    Les sold the team, so ultimately cared about the rockets as not a lifetime investment and love.

    And how did we get into this mess with a communist country? well the owner of the Rockets was bending over backwards for them and put lots of investments in THEIR COUNTRY instead of OUR CITY

    The worst thing is that he completely ruined Rockets history with his jersey changes and pandering to China with nothing that associates the team to Houston

    Look at the Astros, they are wearing their pure logo from the 80s, they don't any governments just Houston fans

    Yeah, Tilman isn't Steve Balmer, he can't fund an entire stadium by himself.
     
    Jontro, slothy420 and Reeko like this.
  10. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,174
    Likes Received:
    27,984
    I've said it in a couple of different threads, I think this franchise is living on borrowed time.

    We have Harden, so we're still gonna be awesome. But once he starts his decline....I think it's gonna be really rough. I don't think Morey is long for the organization either once the heat dies down, and I fully expect Fertitta to replace him with a terrible GM.

    Hopefully Harden can squeeze in a title before it happens.
     
    Nook and HP3 like this.
  11. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    17,127
    Likes Received:
    8,857
    The Ringer is the same site that claimed Morey was on the verge of getting fired and that ended up being false. And of course Tilman wants to make a profit. Hes not running a charity.
     
  12. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    45,844
    Likes Received:
    127,854
    he changed the championship jerseys and championship courts to something I can only describe as an abomination...he took the championship trophies

    he tried to duck the tax as well

    dudes out here acting like he was Dr. Buss and killing Tilman for every little thing
     
    cheke64 and tinman like this.
  13. TilmanFinancialWindfall

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2019
    Messages:
    1,395
    Likes Received:
    1,195
    Yup. He keeps talking expensive toy and how he will be able to sell for $4 billion in ten years.

    Basically telling the Chinese and rich billionaire the Rockets can be bought now... For $4 billion
     
  14. TimDuncanDonaut

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    13,400
    Likes Received:
    31,299
  15. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    23,687
    Likes Received:
    15,047
    I still think Le$ was cheaper.
     
    smp and tinman like this.
  16. dmoneybangbang

    Joined:
    May 5, 2012
    Messages:
    20,999
    Likes Received:
    12,873
    On the one hand, there’s a lot of naive/unrealistic views of owners on this board.

    On the other hand, this guy needs to shut up and stop acting like an insecure rich boy.
     
  17. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    Messages:
    43,499
    Likes Received:
    29,548
    You are correct that there are some criticisms that are overblown. Not many, I would say, but a certain few, yes.

    However...it cannot be denied that he is taking one of the best players in history and one of the best GM’s in the NBA and actively limiting their chances at winning a ring due to money. I’m sorry...but Tilman is not “fine” as long as he’s doing that, especially after going on and on about “doing whatever it takes to win” and “winning a championship at all costs”.
     
    slothy420 and FrontRunner like this.
  18. rockets13champs

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Messages:
    9,034
    Likes Received:
    8,496
  19. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    23,687
    Likes Received:
    15,047
    People buying astro tickets.
     
  20. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2003
    Messages:
    33,409
    Likes Received:
    30,984
    Jim Crane is also a terrible, cheap owner.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now