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Rick Perry does the right thing for Texas: No Medicaid expansion or health exchange

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Dubious

    Dubious Contributing Member

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    Socialist!
     
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  2. geeimsobored

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    The stupidest thing about rejecting Medicaid funds is that the we're basically turning down our own tax dollars. We're the ones that are paying for Medicaid via Federal taxes and now we're essentially turning down a rebate on our money. Not to mention the Feds are basically picking up the entire tab for a decade. We'd be getting health care from money we already send to Washington.

    But then again in Rick Perry's world this is somehow sticking it to Washington.

    I'm excited to know that I'll be paying for Medicaid in other states but not Texas.
     
  3. trueroxfan

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    Remember, Texas has 1.2 million illegal immigrants.
     
  4. mc mark

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    Again, Perry is an idiot --

    Rick Perry Announces Texas Won’t Implement The Affordable Care Act, Leaving Millions of Texans Uninsured


    Perry’s announcement is an especially harmful move because Texas will benefit more from the Affordable Care Act than any other state. Texas was recently ranked worst in the country for health care delivery by the federal Agency for Health Care Research and Quality, scoring “weak” or “very weak” in nine of 12 categories. Perry’s office discounted the study as overly broad, and has argued that Texans’ real problem is personal health choices, not lack of health insurance.

    More than 25 percent of Texans – 6,234,900 people – are uninsured, the highest rate in the nation. After five years of the Affordable Care Act, Texas would be able to insure 1,798,314 more Americans under the Medicaid expansion alone – more than any state in the nation. Setting up a state health insurance exchange would enable the remaining millions of uninsured Texans to purchase affordable health insurance. Thus, despite Perry’s claims, implementing the Affordable Care Act results in better patient protection and in more affordable care.
     
  5. Classic

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    Maybe Perry wants the Feds to set up the state's exchange? I never personally buy any politician's rhetoric. This is the same tool that supported the HPV vaccinations for kids...obviously a big pharma pushed proposal.
     
  6. da1

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    Typical biggottex, who cares about minorities and poor people and elderly.
     
  7. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I'm glad to see that Texas will continue its proud tradition of having the most uninsured people in the country. Bravo Rick Perry, you're awesome.
     
  8. HayesStreet

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    It is tragic that Perry continues to practice soundbite policy making. Just tragic for the people of Texas.
     
  9. QdoubleA

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    Because screw it, kids don't need to be vaccination right?? F#CK THEM KIDS!
     
  10. Classic

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    Do you understand what the side effects were? Or are you just blindly believing it was in the kids' best interest?
     
  11. jayhow92

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    Anytime I think of Rick Perry, I think of this.

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  12. QdoubleA

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    I understand far better than you do. That was a bad round of vaccinations, does not change the fact that they should be vaccinated nor does it imply ill intent from those who were pushing for the vaccination. On your side you have 1 round of bad vaccinations, on my side I have millions of lives saved. What else ya got?
     
  13. Classic

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    Just one bad round? Millions of lives saved? You're naive. Try googling vaccination death statistics. There's more to the vaccination topic than pharmaceutical company propaganda.

    Glad you understand it far better than me.
     
  14. geeimsobored

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    So you're telling me that mandatory vaccination is a bad thing? So mandatory polio and smallpox vaccines were wrong?
     
  15. QdoubleA

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    Vaccinations have saved more lives than any other medical advancement in history, the amount of deaths resulting from vaccinations are microscopic in comparison. You're a fool. I'm sure it's a big pharmaceutical conspiracy though!
     
  16. Classic

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    The pharma companies get them right as often as they get them wrong. Were you aware that the initial batch of polio vaccines were contaminated with the simian SV40 virus? SV40 has been linked with soft tissue cancer which is now an epidemic compared to 50 years ago.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40#Polio_vaccine_contamination

    Lots of information out there about vaccines gone wrong. Modern-medicine always comes with a price. No more derailing the thread from me.

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  17. geeimsobored

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    No nothing wrong with talking about downsides. My problem is that this speaks more to our failure to regulate the pharma industry at the time and even presently to an extent.

    Those deaths aren't because of vaccines. They're because we sucked at producing them with proper safety procedures and even today the FDA is far too lenient on many of these same issues.

    Also, you still dont answer whether eradicating polio and smallpox with mandatory vaccines was wrong or not. I'm still willing to bet that making them mandatory was the right policy.
     
  18. trueroxfan

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    Don't forget that Texas has one of the biggest shortfalls in healthcare physicians as well. 39% of the current nursing staff is expected to retire by the year 2020. And they aren't being replaced fast enough. We already have an incredible shortfall of primary care physicians as well as a severe nursing shortage.

    If you are going to expect over nearly 1.5 million additional insured clients, you are going to see an incredible increase in the amount of check-ups and other appointments/procedures. We don't have the personnel to keep up with our CURRENT insured population.

    This is going to hurt Texas a lot more ways than Obama's talking points may indicate.

    I would expect another push for licensing for nursing assistants/nurse practitioners this coming session, as well as even more cuts from places we can't afford to take any more from.

    The bill is dangerous, it puts government right where it has no business, and that is in business. You are forcing a business to work a certain way, then forcing a tax onto those who do not wish to pay for insurance...the tax is absolutely 100% necessary though because without it no one would purchase insurance till they were sick. Got to take the good with the bad, I say overall it helps too many Americans to give a **** about the Insurance Industry. They're notorious douchebags to begin with.
     
  19. southernjustice

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    AND YOU WONDER WHY THIS STATE HAS THE NATIONS WORST HEALTHCARE
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    highest per capita population of illegals. shortage of health care workers. lowest medicaid performance

    none of which is solved by the plan being rejected
     

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