Of course we have no untouchables. We don't even have anyone from India. (Thank you, thank you -- I'll be here all week.)
IMO, the untouchables should be Martin, Battier(vet leadership), Lowry, Hill, Miller(vet leadership), Hayes and Lee.They should start building around this core. Would love to keep Patterson also, but teams would probably want him too.
I'd love Scola to go to Miami not because i like Bosh here but simply because I like Scola to get a ring. I don't think this current roster is enough to win it all so I think Scola can help Miami a lot. Give them Lowry too. Yao Ming for Bosh would work for me too. . That's a win-win for both teams.
I bet we play with what we got the rest of this season, finish out the Yao experiment. Then do the draft and off-season free agency. Just a hunch.
You list all of these players as untouchables and leave out our best players in Scola and Brooks as not? Sorry, but that core you speak of is lottery bound for years to come. No one on our team is untouchable. Including all those players above as listed above is laughable. Child Please! If it took any of them to acquire Melo, bye bye!
Yeah, you don't want that to happen. Bosh is a 2nd fiddle at best. We need an alpha dog. The only player worth losing Scola for realistically is Melo.
he's not untradeable...he's just too good of a 3rd option or so next to yao and a possible superstar....having a shooter like that is very important, especially if he can get to the FT line. It's kind of like having a big who's really good at defending/rebounding/blocking shots. Not untouchable, but he's so important you'd better be getting one hell of a deal to trade him. and the suggested trade is terrible....scola, battier , AND lowry for Bosh? He's not that good. It's stripping the team of serious depth and handing Miami a ring.
Martin is what the organization feels is a championship caliber SG for the Adelman offense. They arent going to move him if they continue down this building process. Scola, Battier and Lowry would be a fair deal for Bosh. It would make both teams significantly better as well. Battier is expiring, so essentially its Lowry, backup PG, and Scola your current starting PF for a Max level player. Battier could be re signed the next offseason.
I was implying that if they were to add another top or second tier player with that core, we would be able to compete. Think if Iguodala were added to that core. Or Melo(preferably Iguodala). Also, what if they were able to acquire Cousins as well as that other top or 2nd tier player?
I bet that if Les could get a gentleman's handshake with Yao agreeing to re sign with rockets that Les would trade him. The lakers are looking fir a big. Yao for Artest, straight up!
I'd do it. We're seeing that it isn't so easy to get those supreme players. That would leave us with Yao / Miller / Hill Bosh / Hill / Hayes / PPatt Budinger / Jeffries Martin / JT AB / Ish I like it, except we're weak at the three (until Bud gets it together). And, we're still at little heavy in the bigs department. I think we still have enough trade bait to go for AI. I know this is a sports writer talking, and not the actual Miami Heat, but it's interesting that he didn't ask for Hill in the trade.
I think because right now they need some muscle inside with scoring. Bosh would fit that mold but I think it's obvious he isn't a physical presence inside, not that Scola is a defensive wiz but he can rebound and score while making the dirty plays that Bosh won't. Battier is veteran leadership with Haslem hurt, plus an expiring deal, and Lowry is a true point they sorely need. Hill is tempting but he won't really help them this season and I don't think they have the time to develop him with those guys running the show.
Seems like Morey is willing to move anyone for an allstar now (maybe). get your Carrol Dawson tactics on Morey!!!
If I were Pat Riley, I'd trade Bosh for Scola, Lowry, Jordan Hill, and the Knicks 2011 first round, and from Daryl Morey's perspective, I'd probably make the trade, but I definitely wouldn't include Battier in that trade. The team would be much worse. Bucher's: Brooks/Smith Martin/Lee Budinger/Lee Bosh/Hill/Hayes Yao/Miller/Hill Above proposal: Brooks/Smith Martin/Lee Battier/Budinger Bosh/Hayes Yao/Miller It would be good for us in the long-run, but our front-court would probably be even worse. From our perspective, we'd need to get an athletic, rebounding, defensive wing, either way, and a shot-blocking big in the trade that would include Hill. If the Heat did this, they'd win it this year and for many to come. They'd get a great post-up player that they need in Scola (who is never injured I might add), and a good defensive point guard in Lowry, two things they definitely need. With Battier they'd have a good wing defender. With Hill a young big that is looking to become an at least decent shot-blocker. From their perspective I'd prefer Hill. I'd argue that Hill will be a better player than Dampier (all around), and Ilgauskas doesn't really give them a presence down low.
Bosh isn't half the post-presence that Scola is. The Heat need a player that can play with his back to the basket. Don't get me wrong, though. Bosh can definitely score the ball, but he's more of a shooting, athletic big. He would fit well in Adelman's system. I honestly think that if Bosh became available, with Scola and Lowry going to the Heat, the team would benefit in the future while remaining competitive in the meantime.
please. no. bosh. we need leaders. winners and leaders. period. actually, winners leaders and superstar beaters.
I remember when the Melo trade rumors started months ago, Scolas name was mentioned. I was suprised since I was under the impression that Denver was going on a rebuilding process and didn't want any long term deals. Do any of ya'll think Denver would consider taking on Scola?
