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Representation without Taxation: Should the poor be allowed to vote?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

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    So, seems some Republicans are pining for the days when only property owners could vote. What do you think? Should the poor people (a.k.a. "non-productive people") be allowed to vote?


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  2. wtfamonkey

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    Maine GOP Chair: Students Should Pay Taxes If They Want To Vote

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...p_chair_students_should_pay_taxes_if_they.php
     
  4. IVFL

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    Guys this is all so simple, lets go back to how the founding fathers intended it to be.

    All white males over the age of 21 are allowed to vote. No one else. Thats what the founding fathers wanted and by dang we better honor that. :rolleyes:
     
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    Elitist, egomaniacal Fascists. Of course fools such as they wring their hands in frustration over the right of "the poor" to vote. It offends their "righteous" ego to have to share that privilege at the polls. Well, they can go **** themselves, build a time machine while they're at it, and find a place in history where their views are welcome. This country in this time is not it.
     
  6. jo mama

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    i will support the ban as long as it also applies to evangelical christians!

    seriously though, i would actually support making people answer 3 basic citizenship questions before voting such as...
    1)how many branches of government are there
    2)how many senators per state
    3)what is the 1st amendment

    if you cant get those right it shows you have no business being involved in the voting process. but to try and deny the poor their vote is just so ironically unamerican.
     
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    You can't have it both ways, jo mama. You can't create a 'test' for who should be allowed to vite, and in the same breath, carry on that "to try and deny the poor their vote is just so ironically unamerican." Everyone is, or should be, allowed to vote in this country if they meet the age requirement and they are a citizen. "Educating them" about the issues is an entirely different topic and, depending on one's point of view, entirely self-serving.
     
  8. rhester

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    Like voting makes a difference :rolleyes:
     
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    Politics is a joke, when hardly 50% of your citizens vote its obvious not that many people really give a ****
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    Little surprised to not yet see anyone come in and talk about sales tax.
     
  11. Cannonball

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    Generally, 60% vote in Presidential elections and 40% vote in non-Presidential elections.
     
  12. juicystream

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    Absolutely not.

    They should be sent for slaughter.
     
  13. Johndoe804

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    Equality before the law. Taxation, voting, etc.
     
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    Go look at the margins in state representative and local council races from 2010 and come back and repeat this.

    Just because the electoral college is broken and congressional seats are gerrymandered doesnt mean that the rest of the elections are irrelevant.

    I'm so sick of people who say I'm not going to vote because my vote doesn't matter. Your vote absolutely matters in almost every race. It just so happens that the election system for the largest race in the country is broken so people make uninformed claims that the whole thing is useless.

    In short go vote. It matters.
     
  16. Commodore

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    Being poor and being dependent are not the same thing.

    We are getting to the point where the takers outnumber the makers, and they can just vote themselves more and more of other people's money.

    One way to disincentive this mindset is to treat the freeloaders like children (they are dependents after all). Denial of voting rights is a good start. We'll give you a safety net, but it will be unpleasant. Just like the child living off his parents, it has to be conditional or it will never end.
     
  17. Kojirou

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    If this idiotic mentality wasn't so widespread in America, then the Tea Party wouldn't have been as powerful as they are today and things would be better.

    Yes, voting makes a difference. If you don't participate in the political system, and things happen in the political system that you don't like, you really shouldn't be complaining.



    I really should just post a sarcastic picture on the idiocy of this post and call it a day, but I'll go ahead and ask:

    May you please tell us how you will distinguish who are the dependant takers, and those who are poor?
     
  18. Johndoe804

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    Either way things will happen in the political system that people don't like, and we'll all be complaining regardless of whether or not we vote.
     
  19. jo mama

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    people from circle c shouldnt be allowed to vote either!:p
     
  20. Commodore

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    I didn't mean it's one or the other, just that being poor doesn't necessarily mean you are on the dole.

    If you are poor and decide you need other people's money, there should be a consequences, that are unpleasant but not debilitating. Temporary loss of voting rights is one example. Once you get back on your feet, you regain your rights. If you want/need to be taken care of, there should be strings attached.

    Can't have wards of the state running the state. It's like giving your kids control of your finances. It's how Greece screwed themselves and it's where we are headed.
     

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