In order to make some sort of assessment, shouldn't it be relative to what other GM's did during this trade deadline? Just like Harden's, his accomplishments mean nothing without having to compare it with his peers.
And I'm ****ing tired of numbnuts like you acting like the team didn't improve from last year. Are you actually blaming Morey for Boogie signing with the Warriors and Kawhi getting traded to the Raptors? Yeah its all his and Tillman's fault! They should've used a Jedi mindtrick on Pops to send Kawhi to the Rox Newsflash other teams in the NBA want to get better too. Obviously its gonna be a lot harder than last season even GSW is having a harder time than the last season and they added Cousins. Fact is Morey and the FO can't control injuries and we had no 2 no 3 and no 4 injured for extended periods of time no **** the team is gonna look bad. At least they got guys who can play, Faried, Rivers and now Shumpert are way better than Scrubberson, Ariza and injured Moute last year. FO didn't do the best job imaginabke but they also didn't do a horrible job like you are saying wtf you really think Morey is to blame for Denver being good? Seriously????
That's called a progress report. And so far Rivers, Faried and Shump is a B+. Keif, House and Lopez would bring that grade up to an A+ by the time all grades are due
Other GMs aren't capped out like the Rox are it's all relative to your situation so comparing it to their peers don't mean much. Morey got Faried and Rivers on vet mins thats not really his "skill" per se thats due to the Rox being contenders if they were rebuilding then no way those guys sign on the cheap. OTH Philly is chock full of assets due to years of THE PROCESS so their GM can add lots of players obv they can trade for guys like Tobias Harris and Jimmy Butler if Morey had the same resources then maybe he could have gotten better deals at the trade deadline as well.
I give the Rox a B-B+ (3.25 out of 4 GPA I guess). Offseason moves were an unmitigated disaster, Melo was a casualty, Scrubberson was traded for even more scrubs while costing us Melton, FA signings MCW and Ennis underperformed. In season moves oth were excellent, Faried and Rivers were A+ signings and the deal for Shumpert is a B+ move imho, Shump, Ellington and Stauskas can all ball and might be part of the rotation. I'm fairly confident in the team and once fully healthy I believe we are the 2nd best team in the West with the biggest chance to beat GSW.
nice, personal attacks. you must be very smart. to your points: 1.yes Morey can control injuries. You know how? by not bringin injury prone players in small quantities forcing coach to play them in extended minutes. That's one way of doing it. Needless to say he traded half of a roster for them. 2. please remind me of the record last year(i know we werent healthy, but we neither was last year) before you say we are better now 3. we aren't competing against ourselfs, but against other teams that managed to get better with no assets. we didn't get better because obviously we are super happy with Rivers and Faried that didn't play in NBA for few months and bringin in Shumpert - just wait till honeymoon is over and you probably will see in Faried same thing that happened with Rivers going cold. 4. Neither one of the aquired 3 is better than Trevor and not nearly as presence in the locker room.... Anderson was **** in PO but in first half of RS he was at current EG level and with Luc healthy in RS we were at the level that we can only dream of right now. so saying that 2 lately unemployed vet-min scrubs + Shumpert is better than Ariza+Luc+Anderson is madness And Im blaming Morey that other GMs are capable of doing trades that hes not. Every big name that comes out and say he wants trade Morey tries but comes up short... So he isn't that good if he is coming up short. Other GMs pull of trading some scrubs for good players like PHX just did with Anderson. You can say he is blackballed but if manager is blackballed then - nothing personal - he is useless in the business meaning instead of being overly contet with our board and depth you should be worried about Harden staying here, because agreeing with Kobe is just a first crack and warning. edit: Moreys offseason was so great according to you that he just dumped every player from that period, and was handing out draft picks just to do it wasting half of the season of building chemistry. GREAT JOB REALLY
i gave it a C because we have to give up picks just to dump some of our players. only means that those off season acquisitions are that bad. still we were able to acquire the needed role players. the capela injury really sucks cause aside from lack of rebounding the gelling time with our new acquisitions will have to wait two more weeks. i hope theres instant chemistry between capela faried and shumpert and the rest of the team. And im hoping shumpert will really have a great impact defensively. IM ETERNALLY HOPEFUL.
Spoiler 40-13 Bucks --> Traded for George Hill & Nikola Mirotic 40-16 Raptors --> Traded for Marc Gasol & signed Patrick McCaw 36-19 Pacers 35-20 Celtics 34-20 Sixers --> Traded for Jimmy Butler, Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanovic, Mike Scott & James Ennis 29-27 Nets --> Traded for Greg Monroe 26-28 Hornets 25-27 Heat --> Traded for Ryan Anderson 38-15 Warriors 37-17 Nuggets 35-19 Thunder 33-21 Blazers --> Traded for Rodney Hood & Skal Labissiere 32-22 Rockets --> Traded for Iman Shumpert; signed Austin Rivers & Ken Faried; saved Tilfart money 31-24 Jazz --> Traded for Kyle Korver 32-25 Spurs 30-26 Clippers --> Traded for Landry Shamet, Wilson Chandler, Garrett Temple, JaMychal Green, Ivica Zubac, two future 1st & two future 2nds 28-26 Kings --> Traded for Harrison Barnes & Alec Burks 28-27 Lakers --> Traded for Reggie Bullock & Mike Muscala; signed Tyson Chandler 25-28 Mavs --> Traded for Kristaps Porzingis, Courtney Lee, Tim Hardaway Jr., Trey Burke & Justin Jackson
its is insulting to compare Harden to Michael Jordan...Michael was amazing, but this man is in a class on his own
We traded: 2019 FRP Melton 2020 SRP 2022 SRP Wasting $3.9m-ish of 2018 MLE and all our Cash to buy SRPs this year for Shumpert That is insane. (and we have no 2019 SRP from previous year trades. You read that right; we have no picks this year.) Worrying about a repeater tax 4 years from now -- in our best Window to win a Chip since Hakeem -- is very, very disappointing. Maybe we can't get someone better than Shumpert, but my god, that's a lot of draft picks and cash we spent, and no use of MLE.
.. and during, arguably, Harden's most impressive season to date. On top of what he's doing offensively, he's 2nd in the league in steals and deflections, 2nd among guards in blocks and 1st among guards in rebounds. This is truly a special season, it's not the kind of season you assume is repeatable.
I was trying to list what we did with our assets as of July 2018. (Hence, Cash and MLE). I don't think Knight will have any opportunity cost more than Anderson. But if you think so, then replace Melton with Knight in my list. Plus, we could add Ennis up there, fwiw, in exchange for right to swap 2021 SRP with PHI...woohoo.
Not to mention the opportunity cost of just trading Ryno a year ago with 2 1st rounders + a prospect for expiring contracts and starting this season off with the repeater tax clock reset already.
So according to you it's better if the Rox tanked last season right? If they were the worst team last season then this year Morey could have improved the team so much right? Who cares how much other teams improved the Rox are still the 2nd best team in the league which other team could have had a 5th seed in the West with their 2nd, 3rd and 4rth best players injured most of the season? Last year's team certainly couldn't have done it this makes this year's team better. Rox are better this year than last year, the record is meaningless I mean the Rox got 65 wins last year yet here you are now saying Morey sucks and needs to be fired so big whoop to that record. Ariza, Luc and Scrubberson only Ariza is playable in that group, Scrubberson is so useless he coudn't even get PT in PHX and Luc is still injured with a separated shoulder or w/e. Rivers, Faried and Shump way better than that group sorry not sorry. You wanna claim Scrubberson and injured LMM is better than Rivers and Faried then be my guest WTF! What's madness is you calling Rivers and Faried "lately unemployed vet min scrubs" you know how clueless you sound? Ryan Scrubberson: 3 pts 3 rebs 31% FG Ariza: 14.8 pts 5.6 trb 39% FG Moute: 5 pts 1.8 rebs 4 games played this season Rivers: 10.7 pts 3.4 assists 41 FG Faried: 16 pts 10.2 rebs 62% FG Oh look at that Rivers according to you who can't shoot is shooting better than Ariza, imagine that! Faried who according to you is an unemployed scrub is averaging 16 and 10 remember when Scrubberson averaged those numbers? I certainly don't.
