[RELIGION] of peace strikes in Tunisia

Kid, in contrast to your posts, this post was not about me - it was about the lack of a reaction from some of the same posters who would immediately jump on any anti-Israel thread. Sorry if you cannot make that intellectual distinction.

Also, I have some CV advice for you: Employers (and customers) google applicants and service providers nowadays. That's why one should be careful about using real names on social media. At least when one then goes and engages in embarrassing little internet cat fights.

Some more CV advice: A photo in a professional outfit is usually preferable on social networks used by professionals.

You have some anger issues. But other than that, you seem like a pretty ok guy. Good luck!

 

This question has been asked before. And I have answered it before.

As frustrating as it is, I do not have a simple solution.

Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to combat violent extremism, especially when it is not confined to borders, but disguised as religion. This is especially true in Western societies, which (rightfully) protect freedom of religion (in contrast to societies where that hateful ideology is dominant). Fanatical ideologues who promote an aggressive, supremacist ideology disguised as religion will see the freedoms we provide and protect as a weakness, and they will try to exploit it, to promote their ideology.

There is no easy fix. You cannot bomb away the problem. One can only attempt to educate people that the problem even exists. Fixing ignorant extremism by promoting education within the countries where it is already dominant is extremely difficult, because the hateful ideologues will try to suppress education as one of their most important measures. We see this in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia.

But closing your eyes to the root cause of the problem (which is the hateful ideology itself) certainly will not help to "solve" the problem. The first step to any solution is to identify and acknowledge that the problem exists in the first place.

And you have not taken that step yet, but prefer to remain ignorant - which is the intellectually lazy path to take, and the easiest solution, especially when you think the problem is far away and will not affect you anytime soon - and it makes you angry when someone disturbs that convenient state of mind.

 

As has been posted many times before (by others and myself), Islam is obviously not a monolithic religion - there are countless variants of it. Most of its followers are "peaceful" in a sense that they would not to resort to violence themselves.

However, there is a disturbingly high percentage of Muslims who believe in and support extremely intolerant things - like the death penalty for apostasy, etc.

And I believe that much of that is rooted in the ideology of Islam and its historical roots itself - where questioning any tenet of the religious ideology can be dangerous. It doesn't support a quest for enlightenment, as soon as that would possibly lead to questioning the ideology itself, it declares it a sin, which might be punished with death. The logical continuation of this is an exaggerated "us vs. them" mentality, where you would end up killing people for cartoons. Or murdering peaceful people in a museum. Etc. And then you would have a surprisingly high percentage of the followers of the ideology "understand why you did it".

As to your question, having been born into being a Muslim obviously doesn't make you a bad person, or not peaceful (apart from the intolerant tendencies that might have been ingrained your head by certain preachers of the ideology). And as with any ideology, people might pick the positive parts of it, the ones that teach peace (like Christianity, Islam conveys conflicting messages). And then, there will be many reasonable people who will ignore the hateful messages, just use the religion for whatever they perceive as personal spiritual enlightenment. So there should be more reasons to be peaceful than to not be peaceful.

I don't generally suspect that someone will not be peaceful just because they are Muslims. But I do think that the religious ideology of Islam itself is more prone to having intolerant followers than most other religions. And when you look at what is happening around the world right now, sadly, the evidence seems to support this view. I wish that was not the case.

 

No, I posted news about an incident which is - by far - the front page headline news all over Europe (and on CNN), but which nobody had posted about yet, which was surprising to me. Just goes to show how numb we have become to this kind of news - it just happens way too much.

Yes. I do. I am pointing out how numb people like you have become to this kind of news.

No.

The psychosis is directly caused by their religious ideology. Why you would desperately try to find reasons to deny this fact, I don't know.

Your posts on this thread do not appear to indicate that you have a particular problem with insulting individuals. In fact, the angry insults you have posted on this thread are certainly more vulgar than anything I would have done by pointing out the hypocrisy of those who jump on any little thing when it suits their political agenda, but completely ignore yet another gruesome instance of the "religion of peace" rearing its ugly head.

 

Correct.

 

My name is Dan. Thanks!

 

No, I don't see it that way. They absolutely are Muslims. Just like ISIS are Muslims. Hitler was German (Austrian). Just because what they do is terrible does not mean they aren't Muslims. That's a cop-out by other Muslims. Just because what Hitler did was terrible I still can't deny he was German anyway.

Well, I have met several. I have met several Muslims - even in the USA - who said that, for instance, the murder of Salman Taseer was absolutely justified because he was against blasphemy laws. The studies aren't fake. They are true. Just because you - thankfully - haven't met one who agrees with that stuff doesn't mean that there aren't many who do.

No, they aren't. Israel is not nearly as bad as "any terrorist". I know you probably get fed that propaganda, like many Muslims, but it simply isn't true. You should go there and see for yourself. I have. Then go and try to compare it to ISIS-controlled territories. To say that they are even comparable is crazy.

Israel is used as a scapegoat in the Muslim world, their respective governments will always be demonized by Muslims. It goes back to your prophet who ordered the murder of many Jews. I mean...Exiled even stated here that the Mossad is behind ISIS. That's how ridiculous it gets.

Yes, if one wants to remain ignorant - like you.

 

Yes, looks like they claim responsibility.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/19/africa/tunisia-museum-attack/index.html