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Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Democrats Are Ready To Announce Their 2020 Bids

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  1. MojoMan

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    You might be right, but if it does, batten down the hatches.

    With the 15% minimum threshold for winning delegates in the primaries, that is likely to amplify the prospects of the 4-5 candidates that are actually winning delegates from the early primaries (Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina) to such a degree that they really might not need 50% to win on the first ballot.

    So unless someone really breaks out, it could well turn into a two-person contest between Biden and Sanders starting quite early in the process. Very interesting.
     
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    What?

    The gay guy beats Trump and the women is a tie.
     
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    The latest poll from The Hill/Harris:

    Biden 46, Sanders 14, Buttigieg 8, Warren 7, Harris 6 | More

    That is Biden by 32 over Sanders and at least 38 over everyone else. At 46%, he is closing in on 50%. According to the Democrat's primary rules, only candidates who get 15% of the vote in a state are eligible for delegates. If the other candidates were to be unable to do better than this in individual states, Biden would literally win all the delegates.

    Of course these polls are not reliable to forecast what will actually happen next year during the primaries. But Wow. If these polls are even in the neighborhood of being right, it appears that the Democrat primary voters may be preparing to rubber-stamp the preferred candidate of the Democrat establish globalist elites, yet again.
     
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    Clown car or Corrupt Train where every Republican gets in line and is pulled along by Trump?
     
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    These candidates really need to be able to win their home state primary if they are to have any real hope of being a challenger with a chance to win their party nomination. Usually they are able to do that, but when one looks like they are not going to be able to do that, that is not a good look.

    So today California Senator Diane Feinstein is spurning her fellow California Senator Kamala Harris (who is both a woman and dark skinned) in favor of Joe Biden (who in leftist terms is very old, melanin challenged, and afflicted with toxic masculinity).

    Feinstein breaks home-state endorsement rule to spurn Kamala Harris and back Biden: 'I feel very loyal to him'

    Almost all the senators in the 2020 Democratic presidential field enjoy the support of their fellow home state Democratic senators, but California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., broke that mold with her endorsement of former Vice President Joe Biden over her fellow Californian, Sen. Kamala Harris.

    Feinstein told the Washington Examiner Tuesday that she feels more loyal to Biden than Harris.

    “I’ve known Joe Biden for 20 years. When he was chairman of the Judiciary Committee, he made me the first woman. We have a longstanding relationship that dates way back. I love Kamala, I appreciate her, but she has known about this for some time. But that’s what I’m going to do. I feel very loyal to him," Feinstein said.​

    That Feinstein is not being moved by Kamala Harris very strong identity politics credentials is sure to invite criticism against her from some of her fellow leftists. It also establishes the precedent for others to ignore these criteria as well.

    It is hard to imagine there not being a candidate from the SJW/"Political correctness"/"Identity politics" wing of the party. But Booker is a clown and he cannot carry this mantle.

    What is interesting is how Joe Biden has opened his campaign going hard and heavy with the race card and the divisive and incendiary racial invective. If he can somehow carve out a large chunk of support from this group that votes this way, then he may be all but assured of winning the nomination.
     
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    At the risk of interrupting the OsMoJoNum demodialog of this thread I find this paragraph pretty funny...let's change a word or two...

     
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    It is too soon to formally declare the race over. But with Joe Biden routinely posting leads in excess of 20 points, it is not too soon to start considering the possibility that it may well be over. Rush Limbaugh weighs in.

    Limbaugh says Democratic presidential primary 'may well be' over already

    Conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh said Friday that former Vice President Joe Biden may have already won the Democratic presidential primary and that President Trump may benefit from disenfranchised Bernie Sanders voters.

    "Do you realize it may well be the Democrat primary race is over? In New Hampshire, Joe Biden is blowing out Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders was up 30 points nationally, he was up 25 or 30 points in New Hampshire, the last poll, and Biden has just launched over Bernie Sanders," Limbaugh said on "The Rush Limbaugh Show."

    Biden leads the Vermont senator 36 percent to 18 percent in New Hampshire according to a Monmouth University poll released Thursday. South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg sits in third with 9 percent and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., follows with 8 percent.​
     
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    I am being completely honest when I say I personally think Biden has 0% chance of being the nominee.
     
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    Zero? I think you are wrong and let me explain why.

    For a long time I have watched the Republican primaries where there was more energy on the right than on the left of the party. In these primaries, there are usually a number of candidates from the right that reflect that energy and only usually one or so from the left, more establishment wing of the party. Usually, the establishment candidate wins the nomination, because the other candidates divide up and fragment the support for their perspective.

    This is exactly what is shaping up in the primaries for the Democrats this time. Joe Biden is that establishment candidate and all of the other candidates are poised to divide up the remaining support in a way that may well result in no other candidates getting any significant number of delegates, besides Biden and Sanders (a candidate has to win 15% of the vote in a primary to be eligible to win ANY delegates).

    This is they way this is shaping up. It could be that Biden implodes, as he usually does, resulting in someone else winning the nomination. But right now he is looking like a very strong favorite.
     
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    President Trump has picked a nickname for Mayor Pete: Alfred E. Neuman, the iconic mascot of MAD magazine:

    President Trump Just Gave Mayor Pete His New Nickname: Alfred E. Neuman

    Say what you want about the man, but President Donald J. Trump reigns king in terms of giving his political opponents nicknames. His latest moniker was bestowed upon South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg during an interview with Politico on Friday. The commander-in-chief bluntly told the magazine that "Alfred E. Neuman cannot become president," referring to the iconic mascot for the magazine MAD.

    The president made his remarks during a 15 minutes interview with Politco Friday afternoon. As noted by the magazine, "Neuman’s freckled, gap-toothed face and oversized ears have for decades graced the cover of the humor magazine Mad."

    Indeed, a side-by-side comparison of "Mayor Pete" and Alfred E. Neuman shows the president nailed the description.​

    These nicknames he gives have a remarkable capacity to stick and have resonance. To be fair, Buttigieg is just a fad candidate and is not going anywhere. But this is the slow season, the time for pre-game talk before the warm-ups (early debates) begin.
     
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    Say what you will about Trump, but he has to be the most clever man on the planet -- who else could come up with something like that?
     
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    Biden poised to deliver the early beatdown in South Carolina, if this early poll is even in the ballpark of being correct.

    46 - Biden
    15 - Sanders
    10 - Harris
    08 - Buttiegieg
    08 - Warren
    04 - Booker
    02 - O'Rourke

    Biden 46, Sanders 15, Harris 10 in South Carolina

    Biden is preferred by 46 percent of likely S.C. Democratic primary voters, up 14 points from a month ago, according to a Post and Courier-Change Research Poll released Sunday. Biden’s post-announcement bump in South Carolina is higher than in other parts of the country, pollsters said.

    Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders sits second at 15 percent, with California Sen. Kamala Harris following at 10 percent. Their numbers have held steady in three S.C. polls taken since February. South Bend, Ind., Mayor Peter Buttigieg continued his surprising rise, landing fourth, at 8 percent in a tie with Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Buttigieg did not register with voters in the first S.C. poll taken nearly three months ago.

    The next two candidates, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker and former Texas congressman Beto O’Rourke, took big hits this month in the crucial early-primary state.​

    Aside from Biden, the most noteworthy candidate in this poll is Kamala Harris, who is positioned to possibly come in third here. If she can get that up to 15% so that she is eligible to earn delegates in this race, this could be here ticket to advance to the second round (after the first four primaries in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina), which will see the field reduced dramatically going into super Tuesday.

    Also, Beta O'Rourke has lost 7% since last month's poll, as more Democrat supporters appear to be starting to look past the spin and media hype about this candidate and are noticing that he is not anywhere close to ready for this challenge.
     
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    Somebody who still reads MAD Magazine and doesn't like what he sees? Yes that's the POTUS's signature

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