Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Democrats Are Ready To Announce Their 2020 Bids

Yep. It's the same with the Trump "lies."

 

There are so many Democrats running, in part, because they saw the clown elected in 2016 and think anything is possible and anyone can win.

All the weirdos and degenerates think they have a shot now.

It is going to be interesting to see how the field is cut.

I will not vote for Harris as she is disgusting. I have no desire to replace one incompetent criminal scumbag with another one in the White House.

 

I am a bit worried that having so many Democrats shooting for the presidency means that not enough of the big names will be running to flip the Senate.

He said: “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

I don't think I'm understanding him unfairly. You can split hairs all day on how we should understand what he tried to say. But, my post was about how should a liberal candidate talk when they court my vote. They won't get it by rationalizing away the racist appeals in stuff Trump says. I get the effect he was going for when he said this, and I really, really don't appreciate it.

Disgusting, incompetent, and scumbag are subjective I suppose. But why do you say Harris is criminal? Did I miss something?

 

Ok, maybe there can be a debate about what Trump mean by "sending." I thought it was fairly obvious he was talking about illegal immigrants.

FWIW, I thought this was a deplorable statement by Trump. I think most illegals do want to work hard. But we can't ignore that a number of them do cause issues/engage in crime, etc. Is it the majority of illegals? Probably not. Is it enough for it to be considered a problem? Yes, I think it is.

 

That's how I read it. But that's a bit irrelevant. It is not any better if he's confining his comments to the illegal immigrants. In his speech, he is saying essentially that we need to change our immigration policy because the illegal immigrants coming from Latin America are bad hambres come to do harm. The truth is they've mostly been hard-working people trying to get a better quality of life. They break administrative law, but mostly are not looking to hurt people, so he's mischaracterized them. But the worst part of the message is that Americans should be afraid. The insinuation is that we can't trust these illegal immigrants. Same with the travel ban -- you can't trust Muslims. You can't trust Black Lives Matter. Btw, you also can't trust the fake news media. You can't trust our allies. You can't trust the FBI. Can't trust past officials. Can't trust universities. Can't trust women. Trump is gaslighting all over the place. Racism and xenophobia are just another gaslighting trick. "I alone can fix it." We haven't seen this much fear mongering since the cold war.

 

ROFLMAO!!!!!

 

And what happened to human trafficking?

 

Actually, legalizing prostitution would probably be one of the most effective actions toward reducing/ending trafficking. It's the same dynamic with anything that the police state has prohibited.

I don't like Harris as a candidate, but I will give her props for this. It's pretty brave. It might also be pretty stupid, from a political POV.

 

Just a quick thought -- it's become increasingly clear that we cannot trust the FBI, the police, other LEOs, or all kinds of groups and institutions, so that sentiment is warranted in those respects, IMO.

 

What makes it a local issue?

 

I agree the retail market for prostitution is a local issue and we don't need federal policy on it. But, it isn't totally irrelevant to federal policy. There is, unfortunately, a wholesale market built on human trafficking. I think that's a problem. So, whatever the policy is on retail prostitution, it needs to serve to help to destroy human trafficking. I don't see how legalization helps. But, if you can make it help, great. I don't think it's a problem that Kamala Harris has a view on it, even if she would not be in the right place as a President or a Senator by pass legislation on it. Her ideas on it will inform how she engages human trafficking and other adjacent federal policy.

Where do you get that? That's not clear at all to me. If it's becoming increasingly clear to you, I think you may have succumbed to Trump's distrust campaign.

 

don't forget the sales tax revenues

 

Trump has made it abundantly clear he is absolutely fine with abusive techniques when it comes to law enforcement amongst poor communities.

Trump complains about the FBI based on how it effects him personally, not some altruistic notion of trying to reform law enforcement in this country.

In fact he calls people who protest bad policing practices in poor neighborhoods "sons of b****es" that should leave the country.

Do you agree with this? You seem open to believing there is a systemic problem with our LEO community. Or does it only pertain to how law enforcement "poorly" treats wealthy presidential candidates?

 

Eh, I don't know about that. Trump opined on many things that aren't really in the federal purview but was elected anyway (e.g., how the NFL should respond to Kap, how policemen put perps into patrol cars). Maybe it doesn't really hurt presidential candidates to have opinions on things that aren't any of their business.