Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Democrats Are Ready To Announce Their 2020 Bids

I enjoy George Will's writing. What do you have an issue with this article? He is not saying Warren and Thatcher are similar politically, but they have a similar strength of conviction. His writing says they are at the extremes and not in what he calls "the mush of the middle". You disagree with Warren would be a Democrat candidate at the far left?

 

This was a terrible week for Trump, but is turning out to be a great week for him. Howard Shulz as an independent and
the current batch of Dem candidates are so far from mainstream America that unless there is a huge market decline,
economic recession etc. then Trump will win.

Beto, Julian, Warren, Kamala or etc. simply can't win a general election. It just won't happen.

The democratic party is far from democratic though and they'll find a way to super vote them out and let
Hillary or Joe Biden be the candidate despite it not being who the party member actually want.

Anytime the spotlight is on Biden he blows himself up and Hillary is just done.

I think Bloomberg could win if he didn't have Shulz around splitting the votes but no way Dems put a billionaire
wall street guy as their candidate.

 

You are only showing your partisan bias. Warren would of course be a serious candidate. She has very serious policy positions that she strongly believes. You don't agree with her positions (to be honest, I don't believe all of her positions). But to say she isn't serious, or as Will says, conviction, is clearly wrong.

 

Why not? We are two years out, and anything can happen. Carter came out of the blue, as did Clinton. And even Obama was not the favored candidate early on. Not all of the candidates have even announced. And... we don't even know for certain that trump will be the republican candidate.

 

I think you should be a little more concerned that George Will (conservative republican) and I (moderate Democrat) can agree on things even if we don't share partisan beliefs.

 

It's early for sure.

My early review of the candidates:
Beto (not in but think he will be): Could win a general
Kamala Harris: Don't think she could win
Elizabeth Warren: hard to say. I just don't think she is inspiring at all so don't think she could convince non-Democratic voters.
Amy Klobuchar: Very electable, not sure she is a powerful enough name
Biden: Definitely could win a general, not sure can win a primary
Bloomberg: Not sure he could win either
Castro: Definitely electable
Brown: This country isn't going to elect a white man named Sherrod. No in all seriousness, very electable, but kind of weird like Rand Paul.
Gilibrand: Don't think she can win.
Gabbard: Don't think she can win.

 

I was referring to Bill... and no, I don't expect Hillary will run ever again.

 

She definitely wants to. I think she's trying to convince herself and her inner circle she can do it.

 

Don't really disagree with your review (well, maybe Harris, who I do think could win, accomplished and smart like Hillary but more personable). And maybe Castro, who I like but worry he isn't electable.

The good news its very early and we will get the opportunity to learn more about these candidates. And some may end up VP candidates and others could end up as potential cabinet members.

 

I go back and forth on Kamala Harris. I just think she's going to try to move too far into the social justice platform to appease the left which will turn off a lot of those white voters (wrong or right) that she needs to steal back from Trump. I think being a woman of color it makes it worse for those voters when she takes those positions.

 

She has a similar conundrum that Obama had. White voters think she's too ethnic, and I've seen a lot of chatter on twitter that black people think she's white. When you add the fact that she's female and the intrinsic sexism that comes with it, she just won't do it. I like her, but just like Warren, seeing her run makes me cringe.

 

Perhaps... but again, she just announced and there will be plenty of time to read about and hear he positions. Also learn more about her personally. She has a very interesting personal story (eg, didn't know she was raised as in both Baptist and Hindu traditions).

 

Michael Bloomberg will be crucified by the left with his billionaire wall street status, and then in the general election
as the fascist who tried to have government limit the size of a coke you could order!

I wish they could find another Bill Clinton as i'd be ok with losing to a sensible southern democrat, or even Howard
Shulz as what he's saying is the dems have gone off the rocker in terms of government giveaways.

Howard Shulz under the dem banner or Trump i'd be okay with.

 

Many bankers want Trump gone but fear the Democratic alternatives:

"Top Wall Street executives would love to be rid of President Donald Trump. But they are getting panicked about the prospect of an ultraliberal Democratic nominee bent on raising taxes and slapping regulations on their firms. . . . The result is a kind of nervous paralysis of executives pining for a centrist nominee like Michael Bloomberg while realizing such an outcome is unlikely from a party veering sharply to the left."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/28/wall-street-2020-economy-taxes-1118065

 

Don't have any issue with Mike Bloomberg and would be happy to look more closely at him as a candidate. But he hasn't declared yet. I do question the "party veering sharply left". Veering from what... trump's far right wing style of governing?