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Ready for another 14th pick?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HowardStern, Nov 7, 2012.

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  1. Pringles

    Pringles Member

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    No one on our roster has potential to become a superstar. Harden is already a superstar.

    If you haven't realized what Morey has been trying to do ever since Yao retired, then let me explain his plan to you. Morey is great at one thing. Drafting great role players and signing under-appreciated players at under market value price.

    He call these players assets. is plan is to collect these assets and trade them together for a superstar.

    For example, Carl Landry (a player on my list that you laughed at) was traded (along with T-Mac) for Jordan Hill, Kevin Martin, and a draft pick. Fast forward to this past training camp, Kevin Martin along with Jeremy Lamb and a draft pick was traded for Harden.

    Morey is hoping to do the same with these assets or possibly use our cap space to help.

    Superstars don't come out of your *******. Like cjtaylorpt said, you really should stop trying to create arguments.
     
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    It should say ready for another PF ...
     
  3. jayhow92

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    Who would send superstar potential players to the dleague? The dleague is for developing players into potential role players on a team. You can't expect a superstar to come out of the dleague. Just getting a role player from the d-league is a success. If they reach that level, sign them cheap and turn them into an asset.
     
  4. dobro1229

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    Aaron Brooks- 26th Pick
    Carl Landry - 31st Pick
    Patrick Patterson- 14th pick
    Marcus Morris - 14th pick
    Greg Smith- undrafted

    Dont forget about Chuck Hayes- Undrafted

    For players drafted out of the top 10, go look up some statistics at how many of those players are successful NBA players. By all accounts all of these players could be considered starter quality players.

    While none of them are superstars, they all developed enough to get where they are at largely because of the D-League. If the Rockets drafted someone that was good enough at his young age to actually help the team win games, he would be playing... So I hate to break it to you about your beloved Terrence Jones who you think is being held back by Mr. Meany Pants Kevin McHail... probably not a superstar... hence why he was drafted in the 18th spot of the draft to begin with.

    So yes, the D-League does not develop superstars... Only God develops those. But it has shown that with a well run organization, it can help a good basketball player develop into a good NBA player.

    You know who else is using the D-League now with their young players who aren't getting playing time- The OKC Thunder and the Boston Celtics. Two other teams with very forward analytical minds running their front offices.
     
  5. Mr2Hos

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    i wonder why most fans are ok with mediocrity and under-performance, and for the most part- lack of direction on the Rockets part. And are also willing to make excuses for them.

    Houston has a large market, and should be competing with the Lakers and Knicks. But poor management, terrible decisions, and lack of loyalty by management has resulted in this team.

    The more the fans keep tolerating them, the less likely they will improve, the more check Les will be cashing for doing nothing.
     
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  6. daywalker02

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    I am not a Morey hater. But that series of trades took 5 years and initially they planned to have Kevin Martin as the secondary scorer to Yao.

    If it takes Morey 5 years to get another Harden, he is just not effective in that area.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    With due respect, OKC and Boston have how many championships in 10 years?
    1 (Boston being a superfriend team)

    Lakers and Miami with their superfriends teams account for more
     
  8. daywalker02

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    OKC is the result of very smart management (smarter than Morey's FO) and enormous luck (draft)
    but it will remains to be seen if they can titles even with their team
    Small markets have to overcome huge obstacles
     
  9. dragonz

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    I CAN'T WAIT IT! WOOOHOOOO!
     
  10. Rockets34Legend

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    Just like to bump this thread because as of now, we are set for the 14th pick.
     
  11. teebone21

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    we wont have any superstar players for years to come. harden isnt there yet and we never get any high draft picks since yao. Extending patterson and morris was a bad idea or else we could have had that extra $$$ to make a spash this/next off season
     
  12. teebone21

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    gota be a "star" before you are a superstar considering the media isnt even promoting him as one. When i watch him play i dont see the scoring ability of a kobe/lebron/Durant/ Melo or CP3, I dont see elite lebron defense or even d on the level of dwade. I see a young player thats getting paid a max salary based on potential so the fanbase is designating him as a "superstar"
     
  13. Scolalist

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    Don't know what people should have expected..

    A) Youngest team in the NBA
    B) 11 new players
    C) Morey said himself we need at least one more superstar in the post
    D) Coaching staff with very little time after a lockout and a complete roster overhaul to find out what they have and where they are at much less develop young players (5 Rookies, 2 starters in there second seasons and 2 more starters stepping into starting roles)

    Be Patient and enjoy young guys learning NBA basketball. It can't happen in 40 games. We have the most cap room in the NBA and Morey has time to build a team around Harden and Harden to lure talent here. I think we will pull a deal using younger talent for a superstar or fringe superstar. And maybe sign another fringe superstar in the summer plus filling out the bench with Delfino type vet contracts.
     
  14. larry cook

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    Why did we ship off our toronto pick to the thunder, we gave them kevin Martin a borderline superstar and Mr. Lamb who will become his own one day... Moreys a jerk we needed that pick, could of snagged ShabaZZZ. He always thinking about now even if were Mediocore again and again... So glad we didn't give up everything for D wight like he was trying to do earlier this year, he cant even win with kobe, gasol, and Nash on the side of him, lin and him wouldn't have done much at all....
     
  15. charles_zed

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    Carl Landry was a 2nd round draft pick, so even if it took five years to transpire it's still amazing that Morey managed to turn him into a critical chip for Harden.

    It's different now though because while Houston wasn't a very popular FA destination and practically non-existent in the NBA circle, having Harden and Lin build up a media storm with the youth movement has likely improved the desirability of the Rockets as a franchise.

    With lots of cap space and a big free agent market this off-season, there should be opportunities to find someone who can be a 2nd star or valuable pieces that may eventually be converted to a star. There's also Asik and Parsons who may be hot commodities, or even Lin if he starts to show improvement.
     
  16. dobro1229

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    You said yourself in the next post that OKC has "very smart management."

    The D-League isn't about winning championships, its about developing players. The smartest, most respected teams are sending a large amount of their prospects to the D-League when they aren't getting playing time.

    And if we only want to include teams that have won championships in the past 5 years Miami, Dallas, and the Lakers all use the D-League as well extensively. Its just that most of their rookies you and I would pay very little attention to since they are all late draft picks.
     
  17. dobro1229

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    Morey said himself that the deal would not have happened without the Toronto pick. IMO, that was the #1 asset in the deal, and Lamb/Martin were just icing on the cake.
     
  18. jocar

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    Projected pick at 14 is McAdoo, 6'9" tweener sf/pf, it is our destiny
     
  19. Mr2Hos

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    lol that was way too much icing.
    They only other option they had on the table was an offer they made to Washington for the pick to get Bradley Beal.
    We overpaid for Harden, but oh well, we have our superstar
     

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