R&R Offense or Why Set Plays are so Infrequent for the Rockets

I'm sorry you wasted your time.

It's not even worth arguing with you over it.

You are wrong, end of story. Clearly, I cannot say anything to get you to admit that.

You probably heard the Rockets were running a read and react offense, then didn't know what that was. So you went to Google and typed it in and found Torbett's system called "The Read & React Offense", and clicked on it and watched a bunch of videos about it thinking this is what the Rockets are doing, and you were dissecting the Rockets offense.

I mean, if you watched some videos on Torbett's system, and actually knew what you were watching when you are watching the Rockets play, you can tell right away it is not the same thing.

 

Spurs offense looks more like the princeton offense or a variation of it. Makes sense they have Duncan.

I think that would work well with us having Dwight. Especially if we move Asik. But our offense doesn't look anything like what the Spurs run. I actually can't figure out what we run because it's very hard to pick up on. But I am not an expert here - honestly the only offense I ever played with was the Princeton offense and that was 20 years ago!

But JTR - HMMMMMM knows what he is talking about. There's no one on this board who has a better grasp of the different offensive sets that teams run. No one. So I would say if you really want to learn something, you should listen to him. I do.

 

People suggesting McHale should be fired are largely clueless. Firing a coach who hasn't had a losing season despite being dealt an different set of cards for each of those years, in November... is an overreaction at best, but stupid at the worst.

It's not far off from the calls to have Spolstra fired during their first losing streak, during their second losing streak, after losing in the Championship, etc... Save your breath, save your fingers, he's not going anywhere soon.

 

Methinks our offense is working just fine, and just wish our players can get healthy

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Ok. Well, I'll leave it to yall to debate then.

Still, I find it hard to believe that any NBA team would run an offense featured in late night infomercials that you buy a DVD for $20 bucks.

 

Yes...............................

 

Okay, I'll make this real simple for you.

Rick Torbett, the guy who created his offensive system and named it "The Read & React Offense" says: "I left this player (pointing to the point guard) with no decision. When this player passes (referring to the PG), this player MUST basket cut. No decision. You got one thing to do, and that's to try to get the ball back on a basket cut." 5:15 of video.

"If you hear a coach say that this player (pointing to the guy with the ball), when they pass, doesn't have to cut, I'm letting them decide whether to cut or not.. rest assured, it's not THE Read and React. Maybe they should call it something else, but it's NOT the Read and React. If they never have this player (guy with the ball) cutting to the basket, they never get in here (pointing to the lane) and make a decision. Every time the ball moves, someone is being sent into the decision box (aka the lane)." 11:50 of the video.

Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g22S0Z2WA2o




Okay, now that you know that... tell me this... how many times do you see players on the Rockets cutting through the lane without the ball? Basket cutting is the #1 element of Torbett's Read and React System.

It's nothing like what the Rockets are running.

 

That is so far off it's not even funny. Here, to make it easy for you, I went back and re-watched the first quarter of the Rockets vs. Knicks, and here is the number of basket cuts I counted:

2 basket cuts. One by T. Jones. and one by Beverley.

And T. Jones' wasn't after a pass like Torbett says you must do.

It is not even close to Torbett's system.

 

With Torbett's system, there would be several basket cuts every time down the floor. Every time a player passes the ball, he must cut to the basket. No decisions.

Do you see the Rockets making a basket cut after every pass? No, you don't.

 

Read and react isn't just basket cuts, their are different variations that can be Inputted depending on who you have to work with, my old coach tried to make us run it (though very very basic) and can say it didn't have to do with basket cuts the whole time

 

To paraphrase Torbett: you must basket cut. If a coach says you don't have to basket cut, it's NOT the Read and React.

The whole point of the offense is to get into the "decision box" aka the paint. To do that, he demands a basket cut after a pass.

 

Now you are just making stuff up. He was very clear in what he said.

 

interesting if he said that, our coach must of developed a hybrid because basket cuts were not the priority no.1 when we ran it.

I imagine the R&R ran around colleges, highschools and NBA all have thier own spin depending one the coach and what they think are effective.