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Predict how much our defense improves without Harden

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hakeem94, Jan 3, 2018.

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Playing without Harden our defense will allow how much less points per game?

Poll closed Jan 5, 2018.
  1. 20 points less

    7 vote(s)
    9.6%
  2. 15 points less

    8 vote(s)
    11.0%
  3. 10 points less

    21 vote(s)
    28.8%
  4. 5 points less

    19 vote(s)
    26.0%
  5. Without Beard we will be worse off on defense, myth of him as defensive liability will be no more

    14 vote(s)
    19.2%
  6. 0 points less - it will stay the same

    13 vote(s)
    17.8%
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  1. snowconeman22

    snowconeman22 Member

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    It's not the personell . It's the energy levels . I can't blame the players . Do you think guys like Ariza, PJ, and Chris aren't giving everything they've got . They don't have much to give right now because MDA wore them down . It's disgusting.
     
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    I thought CP3 was going to be annoying enough to will these guys to play harder, but his dude is tired himself.. everyone is tired.
     
  4. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    Fans here act like harden is some cancer like dwight
     
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  5. threepointshot3

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    How about the offense?
    Maybe youre can discuss this with you're other ids in the next lin fan dorks get together over a video game convention
     
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    jevjnd Contributing Member

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    It hasn't really improved at all.
     
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    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Nope, and as a bonus, our offense is twice as bad.
     
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  8. MystikArkitect

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    Bahahaha....this definitely would’ve happened. CP3s height can be an issue at times. Harden doesn’t have this problem as he’s both tall and thicc.

    These guys really do look gassed though. Shots clanging off the front of the rim, no energy defensively.
     
  9. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    for anyone curious if we can go ahead and trade harden for klay,

    for the past 4 games, rockets have allowed opponents to an avg of 109.25

    before that, I believe around 106 ppg

    so we're giving up around 2-3 more points per game
     
  10. daywalker02

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    Some are but I guess you are being too sensitive.
     
  11. Pen15clubber

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    LUC is the one that gives us the hard D
     
  12. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    league MVP leader goes down with an injury and "fans" predict how suddenly this "championship" team's offense & defense will be unleashed

    "fans" are too senstitve with the fact that rockets succeeding mainly because of harden

    what you vote though?
     
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  13. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    Haven't voted though but I can tell ye my opinion.

    I acknowledge him for who he is, the best player who is not an MVP yet.

    We shall all wait for the Playoffs.

    I am not his fan because I am fan of this entire team but he is very important.
     
  14. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    but isn't he the most important and valuable part of this team? if not, who is?
     
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    Offensively yeah, but the game has to be played on both sides.

    The defensive stars IMO are still Capela, Paul, Ariza and Luc. Others help as well.
     
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    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    so if you were to vote? how may points do you think rockets give up more when harden is playing?

    0-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 20+?
     
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    Let's not be silly and nitpick about this, he has only so much gas in his tank.

    The older he gets, the more likely is that he won't be playing this many minutes, in these many games without either suffering an injury or having more and more 'off games'.

    Very likely in the Playoffs again.

    He does not give up that many points because he still get many calls. But once the refs swallow the whistle and his shot is off, he would be having a hard time out there.

    He turns into a jump shooter.
     
  18. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    seems like you blame harden that this team hasn't gone farther instead if the whole team

    if harden replaced gsw's best player in 15 & 17, are you so sure they aren't champs?
    howbout in 16? are you sure they won't get to the finals?

    so who could have got this team farther last season as a whole?
     
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  19. daywalker02

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    There is nothing to blame, GSW are better, I just acknowledge what is reality.

    Do we have a shot as underdogs? Sure better than anyone but at the end of day we are still underdogs.

    Hope we are healthy and GSW missing someone without wishing them grave injuries.

    Time for blame should be moved to the offseason, during the season we should make the best out of the situation.

    Things are not black and white.
     
  20. Louka

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    some of yall act like you've seen Harden play defense... the famous youtube video is still relevant. I take some time in every game [Harden plays in] and just focus on him.... he hardly pays attention to his man. It's a wonder more teams don't exploit him.
     

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