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Popular Pakistani singer gunned down in drive-by shooting for being "un-Islamic"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jun 22, 2012.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Popular Pakistani singer Ghazala Javed and her father were reportedly shot to death as they left a beauty parlor in northwest Pakistan.

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    The Times of India reports that unidentified men fired indiscriminately at Javed and her father, Mohammad Javed, as they left the beauty parlor on Monday in Dagbari Bazar, the singer’s relatives told police.
    The gunmen, who were riding motorcycles, escaped following the shooting. Police officials said they were trying to establish who was behind the crime, including Javed’s estranged husband or possible links to the Taliban, The News International reports.
    Several singers and musicians in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province have been gunned down in recent years by the local Taliban, who have declared music "un-Islamic,” the newspaper reports. Several musicians have fled northwest Pakistan after receiving threats from the militants.
    The 24-year-old singer, who was popular across Pakistan and Afghanistan, reportedly married businessman Jehangir Khan, a Peshawar native, in 2010. Javed then began living with her father last year when the couple had marital problems, the newspaper reports.
    Javed, who sang in her native Pashto and recorded in nearby Dubai, was from Pakistan's Swat valley, which she fled three years ago during a military offensive against Taliban militants in the region amid the group’s ban on singing and dancing.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/0...nned-down-in-drive-by-shooting/#ixzz1yXfdtIqq
     
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    I think I posted this in the other thread.
     
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    Sorry, did not see it.
     
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    Man, this is disgusting. And people want to try to deal with these fools.

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    are you actually debating that the taliban are scum of the earth?
     
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    Where is the Anti Taliban movement over there? That is what needs to happen, that the moderates rise up and kick their ass out.

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    Well, some people have recently argued here (e.g., FranchiseBlade) that there is no moral right to intervene when "this is what people in a country want" (I'm paraphrasing).

    I guess an interesting question is - just because these people gain power in a country like Afghanistan or even Pakistan if you don't intervene - do you let it happen? What if they use their position of power then to build terror bases? Etc.

    I read a lot about Karzai wanting to negotiate with Taliban, and Western leaders agreeing - seriously?

    My question would be - how do you deal with these people?

    And the other thought is that these are extreme examples of intolerance and violence, but there is some of the same thinking behind it in smaller examples of intolerance, based on the same religious fervor (e.g. how Mathloom reacted to the cartoonist, etc. etc.).
     
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    Read about this guy. What a sad coincidence that he was assassinated two days prior to 9/11.

    Btw - that hat is badass.
     
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    They get killed one by one when they speak out. The societies they live in do not have institutions to protect free speech. In addition, a large percentage of their audience are cowards who lack unity and leadership to rise up in protest when they do get killed.

    As for ATW's question of how to fix it? Total warfare, systematic genocide, and a strong authoritarian rule to maintain the new status quo. Or, building schools to slowly educate, and allow the resulting, enlightened people how to best deal with the situation.
     
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    Yes, education is the only way, but very difficult when 50 % of the population (the women) get excluded from an education and when schools are bombed, etc. It seems like a real uphill battle.
     
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    That is the point, start in secret and start assasinating the Taliban leaders - tit for tat.

    DD
     
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    ...or like I said, the little girls are poisoned, raped or have acid thrown on them if they seek an education in Afganistan.


    Music is un-Islamic, what about Bacha Bazi Boys?
     

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