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[Politico] Has a Civil Rights Stalwart Lost Its Way?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. cml750

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    Wow, excellent post!!
     
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  2. BruceAndre

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    Heh. Circular logic is circular.

    This isn't the 1960s; the Jim Crow era went away a long time ago.
     
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  3. NewRoxFan

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    Oh, you believe racism doesn't exist any more. Nor hate crimes against other minorities.
     
  4. BruceAndre

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    Not nearly as much as interest groups that need the money to keep coming in, contend that they do. Same with certain (ahem) gender-based groups.

    Indeed, what is an interest group to do, once its cause has been fulfilled? I mean, those organizations have members that have mortgages and kids that need braces and.....
     
  5. JayGoogle

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    Oh, so wait, one anecdote is really all you need?

    Are you really sure you want to play the anecdotal game?
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    Actually, he brings up a good point.

    What issue do you have with the SPLC existing? It's not your money going towards their cause.

    It's also odd to me how many international groups that track hate crimes and racism are saying it's on the rise...yet...you want to completely ignore it and disband a watchgroup...although signs continue to show it rising.

    I bet you also think Islamic terrorism is a problem too...
     
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    Oh no. What ever will we do without the SPLC? I am sure the radicial Islamists will over run us without them.
     
  8. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    The same thing minorities do without all the organizations that help them confront bigotry and racism in the country, suffer in all facets of society. Why do you think these organizations exist? Perhaps you need a history lesson.
     
  9. dachuda86

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    A racist organization to fight racism. Why would that be good for minorities? I really didn't think they'd be stuck in the pre-civil rights era. Goes to show how authentic they are. You keep your head in the sand on this though. Hey, donate some money to them if you think they are needed.

    https://donate.splcenter.org/
     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    I was curious why the attacks on SPLC. Seems two groups are suing SPLC for having been placed on the SPLC's list of hate groups.

    The so called "Proud Boys" founder is suing them.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-law-center-over-hate-group-label/2783956002/

    And the Center of Immigration Studies is suing them.

    https://www.apnews.com/558daf4bcbf56e6f015be0d086001774

    One individually successfully used and got an apology and correction...

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/maajid-nawaz-v-splc/562646/
    https://www.splcenter.org/news/2018...egarding-maajid-nawaz-and-quilliam-foundation
    https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/18/southern-poverty-law-center-nawaz
     
  11. BruceAndre

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    Some context:
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    Apple-backed Southern Poverty Law Center wracked in turmoil, called a ‘con’ for ‘bilking gullible liberals’

    In August 2017, following the Charlottesville riots, Apple made a contribution of $1 million to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). Apple also matched two-for-one employees’ donations to the Southern Poverty Law Center through September 30th of that year and had Apple’s iTunes Store offer visitors a way to donate to the SPLC.

    In a letter to employees in August 2017, explaining Apple Inc.’s contribution, CEO Tim Cook wrote:

    Apple will be making contributions of $1 million each to the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League. We will also match two-for-one our employees’ donations to these and several other human rights groups, between now and September 30. In the coming days, iTunes will offer users an easy way to join us in directly supporting the work of the SPLC. Dr. Martin Luther King said, “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter.” So, we will continue to speak up. These have been dark days, but I remain as optimistic as ever that the future is bright. Apple can and will play an important role in bringing about positive change. – Apple CEO Tim Cook in a letter to employees, August 2017

    “The first surprise was the office itself. On a hill in downtown Montgomery, down the street from both Jefferson Davis’s Confederate White House and the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church, where M.L.K. preached and organized, the center had recently built a massive modernist glass-and-steel structure that the social critic James Howard Kunstler would later liken to a ‘Darth Vader building’ that made social justice ‘look despotic.’ It was a cold place inside, too,” Moser reports. “But nothing was more uncomfortable than the racial dynamic that quickly became apparent: a fair number of what was then about a hundred employees were African-American, but almost all of them were administrative and support staff— ‘the help,’ one of my black colleagues said pointedly. The ‘professional staff’ — the lawyers, researchers, educators, public-relations officers, and fund-raisers — were almost exclusively white. Just two staffers, including me, were openly gay.”

    “In the decade or so before I’d arrived, the center’s reputation as a beacon of justice had taken some hits from reporters who’d peered behind the façade. In 1995, the Montgomery Advertiser had been a Pulitzer finalist for a series that documented, among other things, staffers’ allegations of racial discrimination within the organization. In Harper’s, Ken Silverstein had revealed that the center had accumulated an endowment topping a hundred and twenty million dollars while paying lavish salaries to its highest-ranking staffers and spending far less than most nonprofit groups on the work that it claimed to do,” Moser reports. “The great Southern journalist John Egerton, writing for The Progressive, had painted a damning portrait of Dees, the center’s longtime mastermind, as a ‘super-salesman and master fundraiser’ who viewed civil-rights work mainly as a marketing tool for bilking gullible Northern liberals.”

    http://macdailynews.com/2019/03/24/...l-called-a-con-for-bilking-gullible-liberals/
     

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