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[Police State] Cop kills an unarmed kid over 10 grams of weed

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by g1184, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    The only argument you could make from this as a conservative is to say that police brutality doesn't stop with black people. Instead, they make the argument that black people are oversensitive and burn towns when a black person is the victim of brutality but when it's a white boy the white population takes it in stride.

    I am beginning to think these guys wave the dixie flag with pride.
     
  2. Amiga

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    Where is the dashcam video? Why haven't they release it? When are they releasing it? Autopsy conflict with cop's statement, and a person was shot dead. That to me is an automatic ground for independent investigation. Why isn't there one? Law enforcement investigating law enforcement isn't an independent investigation.

    There really should always be an independent body to investigate every single cop shooting.
     
  3. Classic

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    19 year old dead over a bag of weed. Just sad.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    First of all, it's a big story. It's in the freaking NY Times and Huffington Post - those bastions of liberalism. This is a big deal. The point of #blacklivesmatter isn't that every white cop - dark skinned victim needs to be made a big deal of - it's that people tend to assume that in those situations, the black kid deserved it and the cop shouldn't be blamed. That's what they are protesting - and you see it in every case. You see people attack the kid and the parents and their community.

    But you don't get that. You think it's just black people being racist and self-involved. You don't get that people actually are against police brutality against all people no matter what color. Because you choose to believe the dribble you are feed without having a single thought on your own.
     
  5. GlenDice

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    You do realize those "eyewitnesses" were influenced and were simply lying.

    http://buzzpo.com/autopsy-results-prove-witnesses-lied-michael-brown-shooting/

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/14/justice/ferguson-witnesses-credibility/

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-the-darren-wilson-investigation-were-wrong/
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, there wasn't actual police brutality when the morons burned the towns....that's my point. In Furguson it was nothing more than a cop defending himself against an assailant and the r****ds of that town got together to loot and burn the town based on the assumption of racism. Remember "hands up, don't shoot"? Yeah, that never happened, but who cares right?

    If there were riots after a legitimate case of police brutality, it would still be counter-productive and stupid, but I wouldn't rag on them as much because it would be more understandable than riots after a criminal attacked a cop, or riots after someone hurt themselves by flailing around in the back of a paddy wagon.

    The entire "movement" lost credibility by not picking their battles more intelligently.
     
  7. Nook

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    No the media does whatever makes money and that is not always giving a story that is inline with what the publics position is on an issue. Causing division and arguments help ratings because people have strong opinions.

    Also there have been videos of cops shooting and killing whites and they never reached near the coverage of cops killing Blacks because race arguments sell. Simply arguing police brutality isn't as sensational as race based police brutality.
     
  8. StupidMoniker

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    Misleading thread title. The officer did not kill the young man over weed. He claims he killed him in self defense, though it may have been revenge over the young man trying to hit him with the car, or even just trying to flee. The weed is never mentioned as a potential motive. Just like Sandra Bland was not arrested and/or killed because of a failure to signal, this young man was not killed over weed. He was killed because of his interactions with the officer, whatever they might turn out to be.
     
  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Well are all about protecting teens from the dangers of mar1juana. One less teen suffering the cold hard dangers that are Pot
     
  10. SF3isBack!!

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    This is a big problem in D&D. It's the ability to stay on subject that seems to be near impossible at times on here. It's the reason for so many misunderstandings in D&D. I didn't say whether they were telling the truth or not but they were eyewitnesses who claimed the cop was guilty and there were a lot of them. There are no videos or eyewitnesses in the OP's case which is why it is not receiving the attention that some think it should.
     
  11. ubigred

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    What are your thoughts and feelings towards black people? I'm asking a legitimate question.
     
  12. rockbox

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    The police culture in the United States is just horrible. Maybe it's all the cop movies or something. In other countries, the police tend to think of themselves as the civil servants that they are. Someone to help, not someone to bust people.
     
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    It is the Us vs Them ubertacti-cool movement. They don't understand there is a difference between law enforcement and military. Giving them a bunch of M16's that they lost (cough STOLE cough) and APC's further blurred the distinction.

    I don't understand why Obama doesn't go further on that. Take away all of the military equipment, demil and auction to the public. Send a clear msg they aren't the military. If we need military we will call the national guard. The guys with actual training that doesn't include donuts.
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Because is American Citizens have access to Military weapons for "hunting and home defense purposes". You can't blame Police for fearing being over matched by Citizen firepower lol. I know at least 10 people with AR-15s LOL
     
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    Conflict of interest... As you can see he has no concern over a young man being killed over 10 grams of weed. And it's not about black people being heard it's about people being heard.

    And cops need to cry to their superiors and the corporations and businesses that they are sworn to protect about the dangers of their job because that's who creates those dangers with all the unnecessary laws on the books.

    That's because they don't want to piss white folks off. If the majority is piss'd off they would have a major problem on their hands. Which is probably why the videos of white women getting beat don't get major coverage. There's a lot of videos with hispanics (probably just as many if not more than black folks) that don't get major coverage either because it's a bigger percentage of people.

    Black folks are a very small percentage so it doesn't matter if they get piss'd off because there's nothing they can do about it and many people don't have empathy for black folks anyway so that's what the media can sale for their ratings.

    There is an over representation of black crime by the media. They paint a "all black folks are thugs" type picture. That's probably why cell phones look like guns in a black man's hand. So when something happens with a cop _ they deserved to die.
     
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    You only know 10? If they start shooting them, drive away and call the national guard. Don't give incompetent police access to M-16's so they can have better rifles.
     
  17. Remii

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    He stole a horse... If that happened around certain parts of Texas he'd be dead.

    And I bet those people you know aren't criminals... A majority of the armed citizens aren't criminals. So ask yourself why they are arming the cops like the military.
     
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    when we already have a military armed like the military. With also trained like the military and organized like the military so they don't go around "losing" machine guns
     
  20. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Just like for civilians there's high caliber assault rifles are just toys. Hell, it's hard enough to find a range you can shoot in and even more expensive to shoot (ammo prices). AR-15's are like 4 wheelers. Toys that you hardly use but are cool to own. Cops like knowing they have them around just like the med center working living in kingwood likes knowing he has one around.


    It's all about ego.
     

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