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Plashke LA Times not happy with Artest

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by phishphreak, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. phishphreak

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    Lakers make the wrong move going with Ron Artest

    Houston Rockets forward Ron Artest, right, has words for Lakers guard Kobe Bryant during Game 2 of the Western Conference semifinals on May 6. The Lakers reached a deal with Artest on Thursday.

    The champs should have spent more time negotiating with Trevor Ariza and passed on the forward with a volatile past.

    Bill Plaschke
    11:12 PM PDT, July 2, 2009

    Less than three weeks after the parade, the NBA champion Lakers have already met the biggest threat to their throne.

    Themselves.

    What are they thinking? What are they doing?

    They just won a title that would not have been possible without the strong defense and stunning shooting of a 24-year-old kid with a limitless ceiling.

    Yet they send the kid packing for an aging nut whose greatest hits have occurred on the heads of fans.

    They just won a title with a locker room bathed in the soothing light of unselfishness, teamwork and a quiet temerity.

    Yet they cut the power and added the darkest of moods, a guy who has made a career out of hoarding the ball, the attention, and the anger.

    Tell me again, why did they get rid of Trevor Ariza for Ron Artest?

    Explain to me, please, why they wouldn't even negotiate further with Trevor Ariza before quickly agreeing to sign Ron Artest?

    Artest is a better player, but that's not the point.

    Ariza was a better fit, and that's what wins championships.

    Artest is a strong defender, but if the Lakers need someone to quietly hound a guy during a routine inbounds pass and be willing to make a small play to win a big game, that's Ariza.

    Artest is a good shooter, but if the Lakers need someone willing to stand in the shadows for three quarters and emerge to make a big three-pointer before disappearing again, that's Ariza.

    Artest will supposedly make the Lakers tougher, but what is tougher than showing up every day and playing hard every play and fighting your way to a championship?

    Ariza has a ring, Artest does not, so the Lakers are giving up wins.

    Ariza is young 24, Artest is an old 29, so the Lakers are giving up age.

    Ariza shot 48% from the three-point line in the playoffs while Artest shot 28%, so the Lakers are giving up clutch.

    The one thing the Lakers are absolutely gaining here is money, which is exactly what you will be paying them in increasing increments next season.

    Artest will sign a three-year deal for about $18 million, roughly the same annual salary that the Houston Rockets gave Ariza.

    But Ariza was given two more years by the Rockets, pushing his total closer to $33 million.

    Heaven forbid you would want to give a rising young star two more years, or spend some of your roughly $1 million-per-game playoff bounty to do it!

    Jerry Buss should have opened the pockets a little wider. And Mitch Kupchak should have jogged the memory a little deeper.

    Remember the last time the Lakers made a postseason acquisition of an aging star that appeared to give them an embarrassment of riches and render them unbeatable?

    The year was 2004, and they signed two of them, Gary Payton and Karl Malone, and you know what happened next. By the end of the season, the fractured chemistry imploded in a Finals loss to the Detroit Pistons that was so awful, afterward seemingly half the team either quit or was traded.

    Like Malone and Payton, Artest is a great acquisition in a fantasy league. But this is reality, and nothing in NBA history has ever been quite like Artest's reality.

    Everyone knows how, as an Indiana Pacer, he was suspended for 73 regular-season games and the postseason after going into the stands to confront fans and later punching one on the floor.

    A long time ago, huh? Yeah, all of five years.

    Did you know that he has also once shown up for practice in a bathrobe, asked to take a month off because he was tired, and been jailed for 10 days for domestic assault?

    Everyone said he was a changed man when he was traded from the Pacers to the Sacramento Kings, but he was suspended for a playoff game in 2006 for a flagrant elbow, and the Kings lost that series to the San Antonio Spurs in six games.

    Everyone said he changed again when he joined the Rockets, but in this spring's playoff series against the Lakers, he was thrown out of two games while finishing the series hitting 17 of 61 shots in the last four games.

    And Trevor Ariza has done what, exactly? Agree to come off the bench? Agree to guard the team's best shooter? Agree to take that shot when Bryant couldn't?

    Ariza's only NBA mistake occurred this week, when he followed the lead of his misguided agent, David Lee. By joining the Rockets as a miscast free-agent star, the kid now faces the possibility of a career filled with disillusionment and mediocrity, not to mention anonymity.

    Ariza was more valuable to the Lakers than to anyone else. This was his home, his comfort zone, the perfect spot for a supporting actor to shine from the wings.

    Why didn't Ariza realize this? And why couldn't the Lakers have given him more time to realize this? This agreement occurred within two days of the start of the free-agent period.

    Couldn't the Lakers have given him a chance to come to his senses?

    Couldn't they have met somewhere in the middle?

    But, no, a flashy guy in a funky haircut beckoned, and the Lakers bit, trading heart for Hollywood, quiet strength for false bravado, a rock for a hard place.

    While Lakers fans are now faced with an unsettled title defense, there is a shining word of certainty for every other fan who recently watched the NBA's next dynasty while shouting "Break up the Lakers."

    Done.

    bill.plaschke@latimes.com

    twitter.com/BillPlaschke
     
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    Artest will be successful with the Lakers on the court.

    The thing to look out for is to see how he reacts to the way Kobe treats his teammates. Does Artest simply brush it off?
     
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    Well, looks like they could make a nice reality TV show out of this.
     
  5. Mike Hunt

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    What????
     
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    Artest is not an old 29er, I think it makes perfect sense for the lakers. Artest loves kobe; for all we know Ron was auditioning for the "tough guy on the lakers" job all season.
     
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    He'll wipe away those tears of regret with those extra notes from a chinese shoe deal... :p
     
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    What?

    5 years/$33 million.
     
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    He is annoying
     
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    One thing I hate is some Laker fans saying Ariza can't succeed here.

    It's like this with SOME Laker fans "Screw you, you left our team. So you know what? When you go to Houston you will be exposed for only being a role player and your value will lower...LOL what a joke man, why can't you realize you can only be a role player?!?!"

    Okay, so maybe Ariza has reached his potential. At least wish the guy luck. Any ways, we are not bringing him here to be a future star player and to carry this team for the next 10 years. We are bringing him here as a piece to a rebuilding team. Maybe he has a good year next season and increases his value a bit, we shall see.
     
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    He'll be 30 before the year ends. Are you forgetting all the games he missed this season from an ankle condition that he's stuck with for the rest of his career?
     
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    Love the picture on the top of the article.. I bet Ron is thrilled at the warm reception.

    I loved Ron when he was here.. worked hard, good teammate for the most part.. plenty of times though where you are like WTF.. if he dribbles for more than 3 seconds you know it's a stupid shot, goes in you live with it.. I'm guessing though Kobe won't dig it too much. Don't see it working out there for them.

    On our part, yeah Ariza should fit in well. And as dumb as it may sound, i wouldn't mind going after Iverson??
     
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    This part is the article's gem:

    Get over it.
     
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    Artest should fit in with LA.

    Anyways, what makes him think that Ariza cannot be great in Houston?
     
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    Anyone who has suffered through an episode of Around the Horn knows this guy is a clown.
     
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    It's just Laker fans being Laker fans. Some of them are upset that they can't have their way.

    So instead of wishing Ariza good luck and being done with it. They think he made a stupid decision and blah blah. Some of them are basically mad because Ariza wants to prove himself and he can't do that on the Lakers. Read some of their forums as some of them "Feel bad for Ariza" going to Houston.
     
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    Bill Plashke is almost as big of an idiot as Jay Marioti
     
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    Well, he's a homer at least
     
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    He's an idiot that just wanted to go against the grain.

    "Limitless ceiling" Ariza... give me a break.

    Most Laker fans I know are happy they now have a "rich man's Trevor Ariza".

    By the way, Artest is not a "nut"
     
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    That's pretty much what I was going to say. Guy isn't worthy of a thread.
     

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