Planned Parenthood Director caught on tape selling aborted baby parts

Right unless you are talking about the rights of blacks, women, homosexuals or sick people that want to die.

 

second video out

http://www.centerformedicalprogress...r-baby-parts-prices-changes-abortion-methods/

 

^ I watched through the edited version and it already is much of the same.

On both occasions where the law is brought up, the same misleading tactic is used. The person in question explicitly mentions this is for use of space and not selling tissue and you can say that's a "specious argument" but that line is a lot harder to litigate then "the for-profit sale of tissue".

So is the second argument which clearly misses even the edited video making it clear that changing the medical procedure from the consent form is a concern even if they don't personally object.

The unedited video is sure to draw even more context.

Anyways, if they want to go through the courts rather than through the court of moral opinion, they'll have to find higher standards of proof.

I personally find it disgusting that non-for-profits and medical practioners have to balance their mission of medical treatment and scientific research with money, but given the amount of bankrupticies and untimely deaths the healthcare system causes because of explicit for-profit mandates and the wrecked free-market system and law that governs them, I suppose the priority is throwing out the baby with the bathwater (pun intended) on a NFP that is deciding how much to cover costs on a medical gifting that will save millions of lives rather than a for-profit chain of pharma and hospitals that overcharges for services and goods--leading to millions of deaths in turn.

Strip the federal funding! Indeed.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/planned-parenthood-and-mammograms/

Fine work!

 

Do you believe a black market exists for this 'fetal tissue'?

 

a black market probably exists for any category of good with a well-defined set of laws surrounding it. If your question is whether or not PP actively maintains or participates in that black market though...well, that's another question entirely.

 

I asked a question pertaining to the topic. It's not 'entirely' outside the discussion. Please be honest. Think for a few too before responding.

 

Is it possible there are some clinics who disregard federal laws on fetal tissue transport? Yes. They'd have to be medical practioners willing to risk their practices for peanuts (much less peanuts than average as the only "buyers" know they can't legally provide valuable consideration), but the long line of medicare fraud in America seems to indicate this is a distinct possibility.

Given this is one of the most controversial fields and one where the level of investigational trigger basically involves ill-edited videos, you'd be stupid to do this systematically, but hey, who knows.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but what has been described so far is nothing close to a black market on fetal tissue and any black market that exists is already criminalized severely by definition. That does not preclude the fact that there may be one, in fact it's likely there are clinics that violate the law and operates outside of consent and valuable consideration restraints just due to the law of large numbers. But so far, this is not the case for PP.

Let the investigations conclude and the subpeonas flow if there's anything to be found distinctly outside the law here.

 

I challenge you to post the quote in full context, including the name and publishing date of the book where the quote is found.

 

You're killing me Smalls. Here's what Sanger said in 1922, let me know when you see her advocating abortion or infanticide:

- Having children beyond your capacity to take care of them is immoral and irresponsible
- As you have more children, the probability that the youngest child lives beyond its first year decreases, until the 12th child, which has close to no chance at all
- Even when children survive their first year, the chance that they live past five years of age as a young child in a large family is not good
- As an irresponsible parent of an additional child beyond your means you have put the lives and well being of your existing children at risk.
- As an irresponsible parent of a now large family you have subjected the youngest to poverty, malnutrition, disease, illness and finally death.
- In it's short life, the most mercy that child will have seen is death.


Here's some more hints, from your own link:

If you want something controversial, then post her thoughts on Race ad Eugenics. I don't understand why you have to resort to dishonesty, when the truth is much more compelling.

 

whoops, forgot the link: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

 

Wasn't Margaret Sanger a racist whose opinions were the similar to those of the KKK?

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...d-patron-saint-planned-parenthood-mona-charen

 

There seems to be pretty good evidence of that. Abortionist - no; racial supremacist - quite possibly.

 

I am not sure why it matters what the opinions of a woman that lived in her prime 100 years ago were? She would be considered racist by modern standards, but then again so would many important people such as FDR, Truman, Wilson, Lincoln, Trent Lott, Robert Byrd, Haley Barbour, Walt Disney, Henry Ford... and many many more.

There have been many racists in America, especially in the past when it was more acceptable.

 

Both that and support for the temperance movement often overlapped with women's suffrage and reproduction rights a great deal then. It's not a coincidence that the 18th and 19th amendments came at the same time. It's also not a secret that many white women at the time and within the movement were resentful that black men could vote and they couldn't.

 

Good. They're not a real medical association and make pretty ham-fisted videos. The production quality alone is terrible.

 

Production quality suffers when the camera is hidden. Do you think these champions of infanticide would discuss their greed and barbarism in front of a big production quality camera?