Paul Pierce has a certain 'butteriness' to his game. IMO, he's much more creative with the ball than either Tmac or Kobe. I'd trade anyone on the Rockets for him straight up, preferably Moochie.
It is really positive to see a young rook make a post like this in a totally stupid thread like this. Threads like this are why I can barely bring myself to post in anything but the hangout. Boston trading pierce, yeah, right after San Antonio trades Duncan. I am telling you, if Pierce had the help Duncan does he could be wearing a ring this year. Too bad about that porsche moniker though.
What help? Pierce had Antoine Walker, a borderline All-Star. Duncan had an over the hill David Robinson and a bunch of inconsistent young players. What makes you think Paul Pierce can lead any team to the championship? People have gone absurd with the Praise Paul Pierce BS. The Best Players in the NBA are: Duncan Shaq Garnett T Mac Kobe Nowitzki J. Kidd C. Webber A. Iverson Paul Pierce You think the 10th best player in the NBA is even close to Tim Duncan? People always complain about Allen Iverson's FG% . What did Pierce shoot this year? 41.6%. 2002-03 ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio (120) 603 Forward Kevin Garnett, Minnesota (115) 596 Center Shaquille O’Neal, L.A. Lakers (112) 593 Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (118) 599 Guard Tracy McGrady, Orlando (107) 578 2002-03 ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (5) 360 Forward Chris Webber, Sacramento (1) 310 Center Ben Wallace, Detroit (5) 307 Guard Jason Kidd, New Jersey (16) 355 Guard Allen Iverson, Philadelphia (8) 350 2002-03 ALL-NBA THIRD TEAM Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points Forward Paul Pierce, Boston 91 Forward Jamal Mashburn, New Orleans 63 Center/Forward Jermaine O’Neal, Indiana (2) 165 Guard Stephon Marbury, Phoenix (1) 141 Guard Steve Nash, Dallas 85
Steve Francis is a 20 6 6 player. He's a good PG, which is a very hard position to fill in the NBA, being the floor leader. He turns it over a lot, but so does JKidd, who many consider the best PG in the game. Pierce for Francis is a close call, but I'd keep SF.
Riet don't be blinded by your Duncanlovingness. Malik, DR, Manu, Damn near Finals MVP Parker, Kerr... these are the kind of role players that helped Hakeem win in the old glory days. Who does pierece have besides the no defense walker... delk? battie? williams?... good god these guys wouldn't even get playing time on the spurs.
1. We have no chance at landing Pierce unless we give up one of our stars (Francis or Yao). 2. I wonder if those that have seen T-Mac and Pierce play can honestly say that Pierce is comparable. It's not even close. T-Mac is a top 5 player in this league. I would take him over Kobe and I'd only take Garnett, Shaq and Duncan over him. T-Mac had the worst supporting cast among any of the teams in the playoffs. He's the definition of a one-man team.
I saw in a press conference that Ainge was asked about trading Walker. His response was that no one on the team was untouchable, not even Paul Pierce. This does not mean that the Celtics are considering trading Paul Pierce.
Thanks for the "unbiased" opinion, RocketGuy. Pierce: 25.9 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4.4 apg, 1.76 spg, 41.6% FG, 30% 3pt, 80% FT Francis: 21.0 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 6.4 apg, 1.74 spg, 43.5% FG, 35% 3pt, 80% FT How can you possibly consider Francis to be miles ahead of Pierce? Or, perhaps you are enamored by Steve's unprecedentedly high basketball IQ and superb on-court decisions? *cough*
Don't interpret me as saying that Pierce is more valuable than Duncan, only that Pierce is a freaking stud and if giving a supporting cast with half a piss, which is basically what duncan has, then he too could win a championship. He is definitely a go to guy like Duncan and was the go to guy for the US squad. Granted that squad didn't do so well, but he was the guy who at least tried to carry the team.
Does anyone actually think we can get Pierce for anyone otha than Yao or Steve? Please......Paul Pierce is a superstar, and he pretty much single handedly took that team to the playoffs. The Celtics aren't stupid and aren't gonna trade their franchise player for anything less than another franchise player. Sorry Dreamers.......
When did I say the words "miles ahead"? Don't put words into my mouth. The triple '>' may have been an exaggeration, but Francis is better. If you want to go by stats and stats alone, then Francis leads in 3 of those, ties in 2, and loses in 2. Some impressive statline ya got there... that'll shut up any Francis-fan... And you want to talk about Bball IQ!? What in the holy name of crap makes you think that Pierce plays smart? Is jacking up threes as about 25% of your fieldgoal attempts when you barely shoot 30% from there "smart" in your book? When his strengths lie elsewhere? The fact that this guy's shooting percentage dropped about 4 percent from the previous years, but his scoring average didn't take a hit shows you just how great of a bball "IQ" he has. The main point is that even if you think Pierce is better, there's no way him being better is so salient that you'd do that trade "in a heartbeat". This is especially because I get the feeling that many people like you think he's better because he's managed a little bit of post-season success in the Leastern Conference. I gaurantee that if the two players' teams swapped places, Francis would by now have been just as successful, if not moreso, and I gaurantee that that squad led by Pierce would struggle mightily to come close to the playoffs in the West. And don't pick at the fact that I said "gaurantee", yes none of this can be proved, but most people with a good sense of how these two conferences have been developing would see that this isn't far-fetched at all.
eh....who else we have on the roster besides Francis and Ming? There's a guy called Yao, and Steve, and "The Franchise"....... also the big fellow from China, what's his name?
SHUT UP about Paul "gimme the ball" Pierce!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone who would even do a commercial like that is ridiculous. He's basically saying, "Yeah, I know I'm selfish, now I'm gonna brag about it during a commercial." And people wonder why there's an influx of foreign players.
lol... There were a heck of a lot more than three ">" signs. Probably closer to fifteen. Pretty sneaky editing trick, though.
Uh, what are you talking about? Are you saying I edited my original message? You do realize that the message you quoted had 3 >'s, don't you? Not really, did you read the first reply? He got like 10-11 million last year.
