Patrick Patterson vs. Thomas Robinson Tracking Thread

people need to move on.

 

As rockets fans, the majority of us are less interested in counting the number of people jealous of Daryl Morey as we are about Rockets wins and losses. Gush all you want over the GM, but most of us will agree that it sucks to lose five in a row then miss the playoffs because of lack of chemstry and chance- taking on a project. I hope to hell T-Rob works out; but, you have to remember that he is only 21. Lin and Parson didn't start coming into their own until they were 23. Look at Asik. What was he like at 21? Terrence Williams and Johnny Flynn both had great college careers and were high picks with huge potential but at the present moment TWill is maybe working at a car wash and JFlynn is someone's accountant. Have to show it on an NBA court. TRob is trade bate for D12, we all know that. Let's just hope it doesn't cost the Rockets this season.

 

It may cost us a playoff berth, but in the end it doesn't really matter. With or without Patterson/Morris, I can't see us beating the Spurs, OKC, or the Clippers in a 7 game series.

Your analogy isn't fair because while I'm not that high on Robinson, I would be surprised if he gave us zero production. Whatever the worst case scenario is, it's still not that bad.

 

Hell no, people were bashing Lin after his first bad game, and deservedly so.

 

Don't be suprised if Robinson doesn't become better player than Patterson. I think he is like Beasley who could dominate college basketball, because of his physical advantages, but doesn't have that advantage in the NBA.

 

Pat has more NBA experience. It's a bit unfair to judge too early

 

We traded him to open up minutes for guys with ceilings higher than fringe bench players/role players.

 

the beautiful thing here, is if we don't end up making the playoffs due to the loss of patrick patterson, we'll end up with the #14 pick and probably draft the latest model powerless forward tweener patrick patterson anyways

 

Patterson is better than TRob - no doubt about it, Morey is thinking longer term though, not this year, but how to build for the future.

And making the playoffs means Howard? Where did he say that? That is pure speculation.

I liked PPat too, his midrange jumper, intelligence and defense was underated, but he is gone...and DMo has more potential anyway...so time to move on.

DD

 

The Lakers making the playoffs won't suddenly change Howard's outlook on the Lakers from disgruntled to pleased. I don't see that having any bearing on what Howard decides to do. Like the Rockets, the Lakers are first round bait to the Spurs, OKC, and the Clippers.

Actually, since we're on Speculation Highway, the Lakers getting swept in the first round could further improve the chances of Howard parting ways with LA.

 

What exactly would this trade be costing the Rockets this season? A playoff appearance and surely a 1st round loss? That would cost Les and the city of Houston some potential financial gain. But that's about it.

 

One interesting thing about Robinson's last season in college is that he had a head-to-head matchup against pretty much every other first round big in the 2012 draft, including a tourney run that ended against Anthony Davis (who brought blocks and boards, trumping Robinson by virtue of the blocks). But you can have a look at their schedule- it was actually pretty tough. I'm actually a T Jones fan, but I'd think twice before levelling this particular critique at Robinson.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2305/year/2012/kansas-jayhawks

 

Yeah not like Pat was a star or anything. Just a decent role player.

 

Patterson wasn't the reason we lost this game tonight.

If Harden isn't hurt we win this game. Patterson definitely wasn't going to help on the boards.

The Rockets have always lived and died by the three. That is their main problem that they really can't play no other style than one style.

The slight loss of chemistry hurts...but really? Hurt enough to where we won't make the playoffs?

That is saying that Patterson is worth like 8 or so wins, that's the impact of a near all-star player right there.

So we beat Brooklyn and OKC with Patterson but then lose close games and now he's the reason we are losing? He's a small reason but not the large reason, with the Rockets it really comes down to making more threes and continue to push the pace.

Since the team doesn't even have plays the struggle when they play a half-court game and were forced to play at that pace far too often last night.

 

It made room for Dmo to play, compare the above Patterson numbers to Dmo's very first start.

Patterson 28 min / 14 points / 5.4 rebounds / .9 assist

Dmo 26 min. / 13 points / 7 rebounds / 5 assist

I would think you would be thrilled that Dmo is starting.

 

If the Lakers play .700 ball the rest of the way, then what would the Robinson trade have anything to do with Howard staying in LA then? Seems the positive Lakers momentum would convince Howard to stay regardless of what Houston does.

As for this silly tracking thread, a more rational tracking thread (which still isn't really rational since the whole point of the trade is TRob's trade value) would be a Patterson+Morris+Douglas vs Motiejunas+Robinson+Beverley comparison.