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Papa John's CEO John Schnatter Says Company Will Reduce Workers' Hours In Response To

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Pizza_Da_Hut, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. QdoubleA

    QdoubleA Member

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    Simple minded you say? But didn't you see that chart about how the top 10 educated states voted? I'm sure you did. What did Santorum say about never having the smart people on the republican side?
     
  2. giddyup

    giddyup Contributing Member

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    What can a leader do to reduce cost and decrease debt?

    I agree we need a strong military but why do we need it camped out all over the world?
     
  3. Refman

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    These companies have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders. For that reason, they cannot just eat the cost and lower their bottom line. Doing so would subject them to liability to their shareholders. So their realistic choices are to pass that cost onto the consumers (raise prices) or adjust their workforce accordingly to make up the cost.

    It really isn't that hard to understand once you wrap your brain around the concept that these companies aren't just piggy banks for the government.
     
  4. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    So are you actually suggesting that the rich should have a smaller obligation to preserving this country than what is being asked of them? If so, then you are the one that is lost. Companies have an obligation to take care of their employees, to provide their employees with an honest pay, good working conditions and of course maintain their employees health. If you think that the low wage that these employees receive already is enough to cover their health care in some form you are an idiot. What papa and all those other elitist jerks want to do is pass the cost of doing business back to their employees.

    But no, lets mindlessly recite the trickle down economic bs. In the last 32 years of presidents 20 of them have spouted the same crap about protecting the rich. Where has that got us? The rich need to start paying their dues too. Healtchcare is just one item on the list.
     
  5. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    They have an even bigger responsibility to protect their employees, you know, the ones who make them the money in the first place. When you can wrap your head around that, then maybe you will be able to finally see these little guys are important too.
     
  6. rtsy

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    No they don't. They have a contractual obligation to pay them for work performed and provided. That's it.
     
  7. ling ling

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    Trickle up poverty is on it's way.
     
  8. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    As I said earlier, yeah, because trickle down even economics has been soo effective.
     
  9. Refman

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    The shareholders of these companies (which include many 401k plans of middle class workers) disagree entirely.

    Take the case of Kroger as an example. It has been a long time since I worked in the grocery industry, but when I did, the average profit margin of a grocery store was 1%. Any significant uptick in their overhead costs would cause the stores to be unprofitable unless they raised prices. That's right, it would not be the corporation paying for it, it would be the families going to buy groceries.

    It's called real life.
     
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  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Fired from a pizza chain? How will those people find another minimum wage job?????????
     
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  11. Refman

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    The little guys are important, but so is the real world implication of the legal obligation owed to the shareholders that have invested their money and their retirement fund in the company to maximize the return on that investment.
     
  12. Steve_Francis_rules

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    You're right, they have a responsibility to protect their employees. And eating the additional costs associated with Obamacare would cause many of them to go out of business. Then all of their employees suffer a lot more.
     
  13. Zboy

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    Papa John's pizza has always been nasty.

    Now its going to taste like sour grapes.
     
  14. BetterThanEver

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    What's the big deal? It's a high turnover minimum wage job, not a career. Most employees don't even stick around for a year. Many employees are going to high school or college and only work part-time on weekends and evenings.

    A minimum wage pizza job is a pit stop on the career ladder for most people.
     
  15. Raven

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    This isn't going to work out the way these ###holes think, nor will this turn the public into little Ayn Rands. What it will do is turn working class Americans away from capitalism back to socialism which is where they ought to be in the first place.

    ;)
     
  16. basso

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    burn, baby burn.

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  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    i'm sure they'll all move to europe and just refuse to operate in the largest economy in the world


    ------>:rolleyes:
     
  18. ling ling

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    The companies didn't say they was going to move to Europe. They are just cutting costs, because of expected increase in doing business.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    yes and i'm sure they will stop operating in hrs/markets/etc where they can still make profits because they don't want to pay those costs. they will leave all the dollars on the table.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    okay i actually read the article, he's reducing worker hrs so they won't have to pay their insurance costs. i don't think that's as easy an operating decision as he makes it out to be. he has to hire more workers, more hr costs, and more likely you have unhappy rogue workers etc.
     

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