Why does it seem like fans always take the side of owners. If a player takes a little bit less will we get cheaper tickets, food, or drinks? I remember going to playoffs games was not cheap last year. I think they had cheap beer for a few of those games to get people to show up on time, but once the game started it mas back to the 10+ dollar for drinks. It seems all people want to is talk about how we need to be less than luxury taxes etc. I mean the team made 103 million dollars. The value of all sports teams go up no matter how good they are. Why do your care if you don't make an actual profit when the value of the team will go up. There ~120 pro teams in America. There are way more than 120 billionaires. Why should CP3 or House or any of these players have to take a paycut. Its not like rockets aren't over the cap. Why do fans side with billionaires. I am guessing most people here work for a company and are generally paid pretty well. If someone offers you 50k more even if you are making 250-300 I am guessing you are going to leave your job (Maybe not Cali). Now imagine 10mil more.
For an entertainment business, both are getting overcompensated in the short term or long term. All I know is, it's getting too expensive to attend multiple games.
This is a f'ing great thread. So many fans act like they work for the organization. I'm here for the players. I absolutely want Tilman, like Dan Gilbert, to dip into his deep pockets to fund a real arms race. Tilman took home a good $50m last season, and if you win it all you are fine even with the most punitive taxes. We won't make as much as the Warriors, but we would make way more than the Cavs who lost $15-20m in their championship season. DAN GILBERT paid for that.
I side with the player “Chris Paul is greedy”...no, stfu, he took what was offered to him like most people would same dudes criticizing him know damn well they wouldn’t be like “ keep that 160 mil, pay me much less instead”...as if CP3 taking a huge pay cut would’ve given the Rockets all this cap space in order to make moves
Owners stay loyal to the franchise. Player's don't. For me it's as simple as that. I'm a Rockets fan first.
Made a thread on the Dish but nobody cared to chime in. Do all owners make money? If so... who doesn’t and why don’t they?
Oh come on, now. No one has to choose. We want them all to win and when they win, we win. Doesn't matter who they are in the organization, we cheer for everything underneath the franchise name of the Houston Rockets. Neither Tilman nor the players will ever trump that franchise name.
Im a Rockets fan, but dont forget its the players who make up the team and they are the ones you ultimately root for. I dont root for something as hollow as a logo.
Easy: someone needs to pay James Harden to be on the Rockets. That's the owner. Thank you, owner, for your asset named The Houston Rockets. I enjoy your property very very much. Soooooo many Rockets fans are going to be like "Yeah, remember Harden's historic year? I was miserable the entire time. Coz owner!!!!!"
Did I say that? I didnt even imply that? I root for Harden to get his championship and MVP on this team, the players should have their money and an opportunity to win instead of a cheap owner wasting these player's primes. Owner's just have to sit there and pay the team, that's it. Players are you who root for and want to see succeed. I dont root for a lifeless jersey.
Is Tilman being loyal to the franchise by refusing to pay the repeater tax a couple of years from now, forcing us to come in under the luxury tax threshhold and limiting which players we can sign? Sure, it's a ****-ton of money, but if he gets dinged for the repeater tax and the luxury tax, he'll still make a profit. It might be $50M instead of $100M, but come on -- FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS, while still putting everything into the team that the rules allow.
If I was the owner I'd happily pay the repeaters tax...winning is the best to grow the value of a team! No Brainer! Pennie pinching historically fails! Bad franchises are mostly bad because of cheap owners!
Respectfully, "forcing us to come in under the luxury tax"? Dude, he's paying the luxury tax, and "we" can't pay it. Fertitta made a $2 billion deal not long ago. We don't know if he needs that $50 million or not. I do know: I don't have that money, and neither does CF. In short, Tilman is The Man. We are enjoying his property, just the way we might like to watch him drive his fancy car. But it's his. And we are just poor chumps. I am enjoying the hell out of this season.
No you didn't say that, but your original post was worded strangely. Look everyone roots for the players WHILE THEY PLAY FOR YOUR FAVORITE TEAM, but the players really are just interchangeable parts until they win. Once they leave, they're just former Rockets. That's why I rarely root for players who leave the Rockets because city and franchise loyalty is what matters to me...much more than any player.
