1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

OUCH - No love for Novak

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Hayesfan, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. Hayesfan

    Hayesfan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2006
    Messages:
    10,900
    Likes Received:
    360
  2. The_Yoyo

    The_Yoyo Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2001
    Messages:
    16,683
    Likes Received:
    2,872
    Tim Kawakami considered yourself WARNED you are on the list.

    Now I have to go to the bay area to smack this guy upside his head. That +- stat is meaningless why the poor guy plays for a crap team like the Clippers.
     
  3. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,011
    Likes Received:
    15,482
    Novak is a bad defender. It's hard to dispute that.
     
  4. Hayesfan

    Hayesfan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2006
    Messages:
    10,900
    Likes Received:
    360
    I agree, to an extent. I don't think that the +/- stat is the end all be all, but he did have really poor on court/off court numbers for us last season too.
     
  5. Shaud

    Shaud Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2008
    Messages:
    18,350
    Likes Received:
    451
    His negative number is so bad because he didn't start getting a lot of playing time until Baron Davis, Randolph, and Camby all got hurt.
     
  6. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,540
    Likes Received:
    5,943
    Novak is pathetic. Kaman, BD, Z-Bo and Camby all had to get hurt for him to be on the court. If he's in the rotation, your team is one of the worst in the league.

    Novak should be a circus performer. He would excel in that type of environment. I bet he could hit 30 three-pointers in a row.
     
  7. Classic

    Classic Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    Messages:
    6,101
    Likes Received:
    608
    Novak is terrible. I remember watching a game last year against the Jazz ( I think it was the game right before the 22 game streak started) and he was getting abused and I think the few minutes he was in the Jazz blew it wide open.
     
  8. The_Yoyo

    The_Yoyo Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2001
    Messages:
    16,683
    Likes Received:
    2,872

    i know he is a bad defender this guy is using the +- stat though as the indicator as to why he is playing bad defense which is a poor indicator since that clippers team is ridiculously terrible after all the injuries they have had.

    novak is a bad defender to begin with and then he is a mismatch really anywhere.

    at 6'10 he is too big and slow to guard SFs in the league

    then even at 6'10 he is way to light to bang underneath with the PFs and undersized centers in the league.


    the guy doesnt get on the court because he can play defense.
     
  9. v3.0

    v3.0 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2005
    Messages:
    16,203
    Likes Received:
    931
    Novak is so bad that even clutchfan members can hoop all over him.
     
  10. lalala902102001

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2002
    Messages:
    6,618
    Likes Received:
    432
    Novak is so bad that even clutchfan members' half-blind grandmothers can hoop all over him.
     
  11. francis 4 prez

    francis 4 prez Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2001
    Messages:
    22,025
    Likes Received:
    4,552

    he should probably just keep being 1 of about 500 people on the planet that play in the nba.
     
  12. krosfyah

    krosfyah Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Messages:
    7,437
    Likes Received:
    1,099
    Novak is so bad that William Hung's rendition of She Bangs could hoop all over him.
     
  13. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    15,917
    Likes Received:
    1,603
    Wrote about this already. He'll give up 4 points before his team scores. By the time he gets a three the other team might have already scored 8 on 5 trips down the court. I really really dont get why it is...but my own eyes saw the negative impact it had on the ENTIRE Clippers defense. Rotations get all out of whack, jump shooters get left open when people have to help on double teams. He either needs to get stronger or get even lighter turning himself into a poor mans Wally Szcerbiak.
     
  14. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    35,276
    Likes Received:
    24,321
    Novak is so bad that even TMac can hoop all over him. ;)
     
  15. tiger0330

    tiger0330 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Messages:
    4,759
    Likes Received:
    63
    Novak is so bad that Charles Barkley's grandmother would drop 25 points on him, his mother would drop 45 on him.
     
  16. wnes

    wnes Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    8,196
    Likes Received:
    19
    Novak is so bad that somebody's memory is messed up. :eek:

    Sorry bro you couldn't be more wrong by picking this game to bash Novak.

    I also watched the same game and I remember Yao didn't play due to flu. My impression after the game was that this could be Novak's breakout game in his young NBA career.

    I checked the box score and game flow just to make sure. Novak was perfect 4-4 from the field including a pair of three-pointers. During a 5-minute stretch in the 3rd quarter he almost single-handedly brought the Rockets from 7-point down to 3-point lead. In fact Novak was the only Rocket who was + in the +/- column that night. He did OK in the next game too, but for some reason was not more used by Adelman in subsequent games.

    I guess to most people the Novak's only memorable feat as a Rocket is the game winning shot vs Sac with 2 seconds left during the 22-game winning streak last season. I think, however, the Utah game actually showed more of his promise.
     
  17. TesseracT

    TesseracT Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2008
    Messages:
    6,219
    Likes Received:
    1,131
    Too much hate in this thread. I will always love Novak for that shot :D
     
  18. pmac

    pmac Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    7,966
    Likes Received:
    2,547
    Novak's problem isn't just his defense. Other than his shooting, he is a terrible offensive player. He's not good at setting screens, he doesn't pass well, he can't dribble or drive, he has no first step, and he can't post up.
     
  19. 1individual

    1individual Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1,633
    Likes Received:
    7
    Who cares about him, he's history.
     
  20. redwhiteone

    redwhiteone Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,765
    Likes Received:
    59
    Why don't we start a "Novak's defense is so bad..." thread :D
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now