1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Oslo Attacks: Suspicion Falls on Attackers Rather than Religion I Don't Like

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jul 22, 2011.

Tags:
Page 5 of 9
  1. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,491
    Likes Received:
    17,210
    How so?

    You think the computer invented itself?

    A culture that prioritized science and education brought that about.
     
    #81 DonnyMost, Jul 24, 2011
  2. ChrisBosh

    ChrisBosh Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2006
    Messages:
    4,265
    Likes Received:
    259

    I just don't like the attitude of not understanding another person's position. Singing, "we are better than you" is not a way of "trying to get better". Its immature and ignorant to history.
     
    #82 ChrisBosh, Jul 24, 2011
  3. RudyTBag

    RudyTBag Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Messages:
    28,130
    Likes Received:
    21,399
    What brought about a culture that prioritized science and education?

    Technology...
     
    #83 RudyTBag, Jul 24, 2011
  4. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,491
    Likes Received:
    17,210
    Technology didn't decide that for us, we did.

    Unless you're saying some kind of mind control device has been running the world since the dawn of time. :eek:
     
    #84 DonnyMost, Jul 24, 2011
  5. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,491
    Likes Received:
    17,210
    Singing "everybody is the same" is immature and ignorant of history.

    Singing "X is better than Y" is pointing out facts so that we might improve ourselves as a whole, that way we don't end up like those ruined societies.
     
    #85 DonnyMost, Jul 24, 2011
  6. RudyTBag

    RudyTBag Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Messages:
    28,130
    Likes Received:
    21,399
    You think that there is culture without writing, the wheel, tools and weapons?

    Technology decided for us then, and it decides for us now, I think.
     
    #86 RudyTBag, Jul 24, 2011
  7. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,491
    Likes Received:
    17,210
    Who do you think created language, the wheel, tools, and weapons?
     
    #87 DonnyMost, Jul 24, 2011
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,277
    Likes Received:
    33,146
    Cultureless humans?

    Got to love the Chicken and the egg debate in whatever format it happens to occupy.

    DD
     
    #88 DaDakota, Jul 24, 2011
  9. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,491
    Likes Received:
    17,210
    Cultureless? There is no such thing. 0 is still a number, etc.

    This isn't a chicken-egg argument.

    Somewhere, somebody decided it was a good idea to invent something.

    Technology doesn't drive itself, people are the main ingredient.

    I can't believe this is even a discussion.
     
    #89 DonnyMost, Jul 24, 2011
  10. Rockets Pride

    Rockets Pride Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,674
    Likes Received:
    443
    are you saying they were not muslim?

    were the 9/11 guys not muslim?

    get real
     
    #90 Rockets Pride, Jul 24, 2011
  11. Northside Storm

    Northside Storm Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Messages:
    11,262
    Likes Received:
    450
    can someone be so painfully oblivious?

    poppin the popcorn, and watchin this train wreck unfold
     
    #91 Northside Storm, Jul 24, 2011
  12. across110thstreet

    across110thstreet Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2001
    Messages:
    12,727
    Likes Received:
    1,399
    is this guy serious? the exact same quote in both Oslo threads and THIS is the comment he leaves THIS MORNING?

    what a shame
     
    #92 across110thstreet, Jul 24, 2011
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2011
  13. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    58,979
    Likes Received:
    36,548
    No...can you read? Where did I write that? :confused: You're the dude bringing up cartoons to soothe the injured christian soldier soul.

    YOu mean the assertion that I didn't make?

    Look, you're the idiot claiming this right wing christian anti muslim religious massacre is qualitatively different from an islamic religious massacre.

    I obviously disagree, and appeal to basic sanity insofar as it's not

    You claim it is....You got to 'splain it if you gonna claim it.


    Yeah there's lots of Norwegians who would disagree, do we have to do some sort of "great cartoon massacre"/oslo attacks comparative body count here in order to gain pity perspective? WHy don't you do the honors since I'm not as acquainted with this cartoon stuff as you...thx.

    Really? Thank god . . . Donald since you're the the most a- of the atheists here, not that there's anythign wrong with that, and, ergo, a neutral arbiter, why don't you just tell me when I can call nutty extremist political/religious right wing violence problematic......and when I have to just say "well muslims are worse, so it's ok to say **** all muslims in response to an attack not perpertrated by muslims and OK then!"
     
    #93 SamFisher, Jul 24, 2011
  14. trustme

    trustme Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2007
    Messages:
    1,882
    Likes Received:
    196
    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
     
    #94 trustme, Jul 24, 2011
  15. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,491
    Likes Received:
    17,210
    1) Moestavern posted a photoshop/comic of Jesus.

    2) gwayneco replied saying that the difference Islam/Middle East and Christianity/West is that you can draw a cartoon of Jesus without fear of violence/retribution while doing the same for Mohammed would not work out so well (which is true, as we've seen).

    3) You replied stating that this was true "Unless you live in Norway or OKC", thus implying that if someone drew a Jesus cartoon in those places they would be threatened/killed.

    Did you not know what you wrote/replied to?

    I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

    What did you think you were saying/responding to?
     
    #95 DonnyMost, Jul 24, 2011
  16. RudyTBag

    RudyTBag Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Messages:
    28,130
    Likes Received:
    21,399
    So animals have culture?

    Interesting...
     
    #96 RudyTBag, Jul 24, 2011
  17. MoonDogg

    MoonDogg Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 1999
    Messages:
    5,167
    Likes Received:
    495
    [​IMG]
     
    #97 MoonDogg, Jul 24, 2011
    1 person likes this.
  18. AroundTheWorld

    AroundTheWorld Insufferable 98er
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    69,171
    Likes Received:
    46,591
    [​IMG]
     
    #98 AroundTheWorld, Jul 24, 2011
  19. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    18,419
    Likes Received:
    18,483
    This is silly because DonnyMost is talking about a sub-culture, while the rest of you are talking about culture.

    This sub-culture he is referring to is part of some culture.

    For example, if Islam is a culture (which I completely reject), they invented:

    - Torpedoes
    - Rockets
    - Metal Armour
    - Windmills

    Does that make them part of the Islamic culture? Arab culture? or the "culture" that DonnyMost is referring to?

    The answer is all or none.

    People who are too wrapped up in culture are worshipping the past. You learn from the past, and you build on it if you can, then you put it away. It's cool if you're being nostalgic, but stubbornly holding onto culture like some cultures do really gets on my nerves.
     
    #99 Mathloom, Jul 25, 2011
  20. AroundTheWorld

    AroundTheWorld Insufferable 98er
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    69,171
    Likes Received:
    46,591
    Didn't check the others, but...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windmill
     
    #100 AroundTheWorld, Jul 25, 2011
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 5 of 9

Share This Page

Toggle Width
Style
ClutchFans Original

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Rockets Content

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now