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Opening Day 25-man Roster predictions

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Commodore, Feb 12, 2017.

  1. edwardc

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    Marisnick plays defense only 2016 .209avg 2015 236 avg he is not a good hitter so just like singleton this should be his last year on the main roster.As well as preston tucker last try.
     
  2. juicystream

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    He's also one of the fastest guys on the team, so he has that value too. But definitely without an improvement at the plate, it would be hard to see the team going to year 2 of arbitration with him. Especially given that we have Teoscar and Fisher for minimum salaries and a few more guys that could be ready in 2018.
     
  3. edwardc

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    Why not just keep Kemp up he hits and has speed also has years left under team control.
     
  4. juicystream

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    He would be another candidate. His defense isn't as good and definitely shouldn't play RF. He didn't hit well in his first cup of tea. He is also a LHB. That makes him less than ideal for our current roster.

    The same is generally true of Fisher, but we've not seen him in the majors yet.
     
  5. awc713

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    Anyone's predictions changed so far?

    Reed looking good.
     
  6. Rockets Pride

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    Batting order should be this:

    Altuve 2B
    Bregman 3B
    Correa SS
    Beltran DH
    Springer CF
    Reddick RF
    Gurriel 1B
    McCann C
    Aoki LF

    Marwin, Reed, Gattis, Jake

    I think we will end up carrying 13 pitcher so 1 of the above guys will get scratched.
     
  7. Snake Diggit

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    Pretty much set:

    OF Springer
    3B Bregman
    2B Altuve
    DH Beltran
    SS Correa
    OF Reddick
    1B Gurriel
    C McCann/Gattis
    OF Aoki/Marisnick
    UT Marwin

    SP Keuchel
    SP McCullers
    SP McHugh
    SP Morton
    SP Musgrove
    SP Fiers
    RP Devenski
    RP Feliz
    RP Hoyt
    RP Sipp
    RP Harris
    RP Gregerson
    CL Giles

    Quintana sure would look good in that rotation but otherwise a completely stacked roster.
     
  8. Hey Now!

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    Why do you not want a hitter with an insanely high contact rate in the middle of our line-up? Further, why would you want him to displace a hitter that gets on base but strikes out a lot? Do you know how many rallies Springer would kill hitting fifth?

    Even as baseball evolves, and all the old standbys die on the vine, Altuve remains a quintessential #3 hitter. I'd even be ok, again, given his high-rate of contact, to hit him him 4th - my only hesitation being he might miss on some PAs.

    No, no - Springer is a terrific lead-off hitter and Altuve needs to hit 3rd or 4th.
     
  9. Rockets Pride

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    Do you realize how many more at-bats Altuve will get as the leadoff hitter than the 3 hitter over a course of a season?
    Take a guess
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    My guess would be about 40 (2*162/9). That said, I expect Springer and Altuve to be closer in OBP for 2017.
     
  11. Rockets12

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    Roughly 48 more plate appearances. That's the difference if you project Altuve/Springer stats for a full season at the 3rd/1st spot in the lineup
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Hinch said so recently. I hate it, but then again I don't get paid to make those decisions.
     
  13. MrBear1

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    Reed needs to make the team over Aoki as long as Hinch can get him regular at bats. Aoki really has no role on this team imo.
     
  14. Progs

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    I'm willing to trade Martes, Reed, & Paulino for Quintana. Final offer!
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    Based on last year, when he logged 205 PA as a leadoff hitter and 429 as a #3 hitter, it's 44 more. But he still would have totaled 705 as a #3 hitter, which would have ranked 7th in all of MLB. So, fairly marginal.

    I'm more concerned with strikeouts and walks. Springer struck out 178 times last year. Jose Altuve struck 190 times... over the past three years combined. Where do you want all of Springer's strikeouts to occur? With Altuve, Bregman, Correa and/or Beltran on base? Meanwhile, Springer drew 88 walks last year. Altuve 93... the past two years combined.

    Altuve puts the ball in play at a remarkably high rate; I want him at the plate in high-leverage situations. I've even toyed with the idea of him hitting 4th because of how often his makes contact.
     
  16. Rockets Pride

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    lol so maybe Springer shouldn't been in the top 5 if he sucks so bad? ;)
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    When did I say Springer "sucks so bad"? I said he strikes out a lot and that Altuve is significantly better at putting balls in play. In terms of maximizing run-scoring opportunities, I'd prefer Altuve get more of those plate appearances than Springer.

    I love Springer as our lead-off hitter - it's why I mentioned his walks. You want a guy who gets on base as often as he does leading off. He's ideal, frankly. AND... as a lead-off hitter, those strikeouts are far more tolerable.
     
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    A teams best overall hitter doesn't hit lead off, never has, never will. Altuve was easily our best hitter last year.

    You want them in a position where their hits are most productive, and guys leading off are coming up with less traffic than the 3 hitter will. Altuve will hit 3rd, the same way Bagwell did for years, because he's the best we have. If he falls off this year, then maybe you move him around.
     
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    I hope the little guy, jose altuve is it? makes it. He's fun to watch.
     
  20. juicystream

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    It goes so contrary to the way baseball has been played for most of its history. There are a couple of reasons though that do favor Altuve hitting 1st over Springer: Stolen bases (despite Springer's speed and minor league numbers he's not been good in that regard) & Altuve doesn't have as much power.

    I'm in favor of Springer staying in the lead-off spot for now, but there are lots of ways we could construct the top 5 guys. It will also be interesting to see what Hinch does to break up the RHB.
     

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