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ONE BILLION DOLLARS (Mega Millions jackpot)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by TheRealist137, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I'd give over half of it away tbh. You can live off of interest of $200 mil for more than 4 generations. I'd have a lot of **** named after me in this city lol.
     
  2. Major

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    As an example, your two options for this lottery are:

    $1.6B spread over 30 years
    $904MM cash option

    So clearly they include an interest rate in there so the $904 million now becomes $1.6B if spread over time. I'm too lazy to do the math on what that rate is, but I assume it's based on a 30-yr treasury or something of the sort (no reason for the lotto to take on any risk).

    Also, for smaller lottery winnings (like $2MM!), there's a huge tax advantage to taking smaller annual payments and being in a lower tax bracket.
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    Estimated Jackpot Value: (Based on 0% state income tax)

    Lump Sum Option
    One-Time Payout (after Taxes): $690,000,000

    Annuity Option
    (30 graduated payments made annually over 29 years)
    Total Payout (after Taxes): $1,200,000,000
    Example Payments
    Initial (1st) Payment (after Taxes):$18,061,722
    10th Payment (after Taxes):$28,019,655
    20th Payment (after Taxes):$45,641,077
    Final (30th) Payment (after Taxes):$74,344,500
     
  4. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Contributing Member

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    Avoiding tax implication is a huge price to pay considering the return you could make over 30 years vs the inflation loss over 30 years. Discipline is the key, naturally.
     
  5. Major

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    Certainly true for someone with financial knowledge or the sense to get a financial advisor, etc. But a ton of lottery winners don't do that and the lump sum protects them from themselves. I think the lump sum option is based on something around a 4% interest rate, so it's not a bad investment option. It's better than taking a lump sum and putting it all in 30-year treasuries (3.4%). When you have a billion dollars, there's no need to take excess risk if you're just trying to live an easy life (instead of building a business, maximizing money, etc).

    But when accounting for taxes in smaller lottery winnings, the difference is magnified quite a bit depending on your other income and tax brackets. You could make the equivalent of an 8-10% no-risk annual return by taking the annual payments - it would be the equivalent of investing in the stock market but with no risk of losses.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Take the lump sum, move to a country that cares about it's citizens like Canada - and set up shop.

    DD
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    Brother let's get suites at the Toyota Center and make it available to all 99ers!
    @heypartner
     
  8. asianballa23

    asianballa23 Member

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    say if you win a bilion dollar, can you tell the lotto commission you just want ... say 50 mil instead? And tell 'em keep the rest or do whatever they want with it?
     
  9. asianballa23

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    the team is not for sale, you're about a year late....
     
  10. Rocket River

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    The Tax bracket on 900 Million is bigger than 90 million
    I always thought after a million . . it was all the same :D

    So what are the risk of taking the pay out over 30 years?
    If I die . . . .my family does not get the money?
    They have the ability to actually 'run out of money'? Its not guaranteed?

    I take 900 Million dollars
    Find a financial Advisor . . . . .'A trustworthy one' . . .. one that won't cut so deep into your earnings that you might as well took the lump sum
    Honestly. . . I think I might 2 financial Advisors . . who don't know each other to check each other . . and keep it that way

    Get a LAwyer and maybe 2 Accountants too :D

    Rocket River
     
  11. Major

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    No - in the case of a large lottery, it will be the same. But if you win $2MM and spread it over 30 years, that's $66,000 per year and could keep you in a lower bracket.

    The risk is someone is an idiot and blows all their money because they don't know how to manage those kinds of numbers or the pressures from friends/family/etc that come with it (or scammers, etc). It seems ridiculous, but apparently 70% of lottery winners eventually declare bankruptcy.

    If you're smart with your money and/or hire the right advisors/etc, you should end up with more money if you take the lump sum. But it doesn't work out for people as well as it theoretically should.

    Some fun stats:

    https://brandongaille.com/22-lottery-winners-bankrupt-statistics/
     
  12. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    The biggest risk of taking the 30 year annuity is taxes. Taxes are at pretty historic lows. The odds are that over the next 30 years, you'll average a higher tax rate than you have right now. 2018 may be the best year to win the lottery, tax-wise.
     
  13. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Contributing Member

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    Excessive inflation, insolvency of the lotto and death are bigger risks.
     
  14. tochiee22

    tochiee22 Contributing Member

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    If anyone in here wins.. can you please split like, 10 mil , between us clutchfans members.
     
  15. ElPigto

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    I won't give you $10M but I'll invite you to my luxury suite at TC!
     
  16. tochiee22

    tochiee22 Contributing Member

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    I’ll take it.
     
  17. VanityHalfBlack

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    Does the winnings comes with hookers and blow? How much cinnabon can I buy with this?
     
  18. VanityHalfBlack

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    What are the best brothels? Think that's what I would do with the winnings. I would sleep with all the hookers and then do blow till there is no more money left.
     
  19. Remix

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    Didn't win. Starting to think this is a scam. where do I get my refund?
     
  20. RasaqBoi

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    I hope a homeless person won, but most likely it’s some random farmer in Idaho that they pay to go up there n act like a winner.
     
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