bigtexx, Alan Greenspan - " While incurring a record deficit, the U.S. economy remains stable and flexible" http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5011709 Not exactly "booming" but definitely healthy. Deficit and gas prices definitely weighing down our economy.
TJ, bigtexxx, and basso may not stop. But after this thread nobody can say the liberals didn't give them their chance to back up their words with proof. At this point they can continue, and I will simply link this thread with the title where is the proof, everytime they do, until they either stop the accusations or provide evidence.
I have proved quite a bit in this thread around your point on posting negative news. I've shown the liberals to be completely ignorant about our economy, largely due to their hatred of Bush and how much it would anger them if Bush was credited with our healthy economy that we have today.
Even if you have shown all liberals to be completely ignorant of our economy it doesn't show how even one liberal supported terrorists or Saddam. I also commented on why people opposed to the war might post articles that show the war is going poorly, because it is evidence to support the position that the war was a bad idea. But once again it doesn't prove that any liberal supports Saddam or the terrorists. I am waiting on you to provide such proof, or even broach the subject.
How can you so blatantly ignore the actions of the liberals over the past few years? By attempting to undermine the war effort, the liberals share common cause with al Qaeda -- it's as simple as that. Attempting to draw everyone's attention to perceived failures, protesting in front of war hospitals, lying about the events leading up to war, exaggerating events related to the war, trying to convince everyone that we've lost the war, and gleefully trumpeting bad news is clearly all focused on undermining the chances of success in the War on Terror.
How can you so blatantly ignore the First Amendment of the United States Constitution? Your myopia is astounding.
Well see? There's your problem right there. A lot of "liberals" don't see the war in Iraq as part of the war on terror. Oh it is now thanks to the knucklehead in chief, but it wasn't after 911.
I appreciate your frustration and I hope this thread will settle matters conclusively. But I doubt it, though.
TJ, liberals have not attempted to undermine the effort of the war on terror or the actions of our troops. Now is the time and place for you to show me anywhere the we have. If it is as simple as sharing common cause with Al Qaeda then you are guilty was well, becuase both you and Al Qaeda supported the re-election of George W. Bush. I have linked the letter from Al Qaeda in which they state this. Show me where any post of America not doing well in the war, or violating traditional Amecians values was done with glee. Where is the proof that anyone took delight in that? Again, by expressing our views freely, we are flaunting our freedom in the face of freedom-hating terrorists. We are providing an example of freedom in action for all to see, in direct contrast to what the terrorists whish. Exercising our freedom doesn't help terrorism, it hurts it.
You have presented ONE graph along with a link that you are not allowed by the publisher to use. Here is an article that discusses real wage reductions along with the other problems seen by the working classes... http://www.laborresearch.org/story.php?id=398 Here is an article from the Financial Times that says the same thing... http://news.ft.com/cms/s/f269a8f4-c173-11d9-943f-00000e2511c8.html And one from the Economic Policy Institute... http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_07162004 And here is more from Paul Craig Roberts, who was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: pcroberts@postmark.net Bush's Jobless Economy More Bad News on the Jobs Front By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS The January jobs report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics continues the bad news of the past four years. During President Bush's first term, the US economy had a net loss of three-quarters of a million private sector jobs. Despite three years of economic recovery, fewer Americans are employed in the private sector today than when Bush was first inaugurated four years ago. The slight decline in the unemployment rate reported for January is not the result of new jobs; it is the result of large numbers of discouraged people, many with university degrees, dropping out of the work force. They cannot find employment and have given up looking. During Bush's first term, the once fabled US economy has been unable to create jobs in export sectors or in import-competitive sectors. January's 134,000 new private sector jobs are in domestic services that cannot be outsourced: couriers and messengers, food services and drinking places, health care and social assistance, educational services, temporary help, retail, and credit intermediation. US imports are now 50 percent greater than US exports, putting tremendous pressure on the US dollar. US dependence on imported manufactured goods has resulted in exploding trade deficits, which are growing more than five times faster than the US economy. The explosive growth of the US trade deficit since 1990 has turned $3.3 trillion of US assets over to foreigners. Flooded with US dollars, foreigners perceive their dollar holdings to be rapidly depreciating. The dollar has fallen dramatically against the Euro, gold, and the British pound. At an international economic meeting in Davos, Switzerland on January 26, the director of a Chinese National Economic Research Institute announced that China has lost faith in the stability of the US dollar. "Now people understand the US dollar will not stop devaluating," said Fan Gang. One likely result of this realization is that foreigners will cease to use their trade surpluses to mop up American red ink. It makes no sense to purchase dollar assets such as Treasury bonds when they are falling in value. As foreigners continue to move out of dollars, US interest rates will rise, terminating the housing boom and wrecking family finances. America's growing dependence on imports reflects the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs and knowledge services. Every time a US firm outsources goods or services, it turns domestic production into imports. Half of the US trade deficit with China represents US offshore production for US markets. Interest groups that benefit from outsourcing and their spokespersons who cloak themselves in free-trade rhetoric maintain that there is nothing to worry about. Outsourcing, they claim, strengthens the US economy and creates jobs. If that were true, wouldn't economic strength translate into dollar strength? If outsourcing creates US jobs, wouldn't some of those jobs be in the export sector? Average weekly pay in the US is declining in real terms. Obviously, if outsourcing is creating jobs, they are less good jobs than the ones being outsourced. Trading better jobs for worse ones is the road to poverty, not the road to wealth. The dismal US performance in job and pay growth is despite the most stimulative monetary and fiscal policy in my lifetime. If the lowest US interest rates in memory, tax cuts and the biggest budget deficits in US history cannot create jobs and boost pay, what can? Charles McMillion of MBG Information Services notes that normally a 38-month old economic recovery would have raised hours paid by 11% to 14%. The 38-month old Bush recovery has raised hours paid by less than one percent! The clowns in Washington DC imagine that they sit astride a Superpower. Absorbed in fantasies of invading countries and remaking the world in America's image, little do our deluded leaders realize that America is in the hands of our Chinese and Japanese creditors. Should either of these Asian powerhouses decide to stop mopping up America's red ink, the dollar would collapse to such an extent that it would lose its reserve currency status. When the dollar ceases to be the reserve currency, America will cease to be a superpower. ________________________________________________________________ Try again, rookie.
I am sure that The Myopic One won't let a few solid *facts* get in the way of his *beliefs* of the Republican Utopia the US has become in the last 4 years.
